Bob
I fully agree with your comments, but shouldn't we be addressing these
to Graham Newby not just our own group?
I have passed on my feelings in the strongest possible manner. I have
told him that these "free" photo's he has been receiving were in fact
paid for by Europa and in turn us. even the very expensive digital
camera he managed to walk away with was bought by Europa!
Its only by directing our deep felt concerns directly to him that things
may change, IMHO
So come on guys lets stand up and be counted on this one.
Alan
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
R.C.Harrison
Subject: RE: Europa-List: PFA Feedback
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Hi! All
At the expense of continuing this debacle I have to agree with Mark and
Neville, also everyone else has valuable contributions in stating their
opinions but in addition it has to be remembered that all this business
about an "association representing it's members" is somewhat a sham. The
PFA is in my understanding a regulatory branch of the CAA where
membership is compulsory and therefore in effect supposedly a friendly
licensing authority for "Flying for fun". For my humble opinion there
isn't a lot of friendliness about at present on this issue and "others
currently going through the system." The PFA are missing an opportunity
to put out a more human face on this blessed issue. It is preferring to
put it's head "you know where" and continue to allow the "subject jerk"
page space and so called "CREDITS" which ultimately gives him
promotional status which is the kind of "payment" he enjoys, along with
the fact that as a result of the "associated allegations" there is a
huge sum of money been taken out of the aspirations of many would be
builders pockets and the industry that would have swelled the PFA
"membership base" the most important goal needed. I would call for some
sanity to now be engaged and request the PFA to be considerably and more
promptly engaged with the "brotherhood and spirit" of the diverse
talents amongst homebuilders and so be more prepared to understand the
kind of expense and frustrations we have to bear by lots of the actions
it takes. In other systems of regulation our activity is classed as
"experimental" which carries a degree of awe but not necessarily the
level of engineering respect the industry should have. The PFA should be
looking to embrace a position somewhere between that and which currently
prevails even at the expense of loosing a few pictures!
Sincerely
Bob Harrison (Not loosing my head like all around me YET! But there'll
be a couple of AGM's of interesting content!)
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[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of
NevEyre@aol.com
Subject: Re: Europa-List: PFA Feedback
Hi Roger / Gerry / Jeremy / Alan / William / Bob / et all........ I have
been just as pissed off that KW is getting photo's ANYWHERE, not just
in PF [ I would bet real money he IS getting money from the PFA] , and
there
are DOZENS of you out there , who I have spoken with recently, who feel
the
same.
HOW ABOUT ANOTHER FORM OF ATTACK ?
Whether he is getting money for the photo's, it is a comercial venture
he is
operating, do we know anyone in the C.A.A. who can look into the
legality of
useing PFA Permit aircraft, and C.A.A. non public transport cat'
aircraft for
aerial work ?
I know of many ''sorties'' carried out in the Europa demonstrators, if
he
ever recieved ANY money for ANY of those photo's, can we ''get the
ba**ard'' ? You can also be sure, he will be at Kemble this year, and
the PFA will take
his photo's, unless we can get enough members to make enough noise ? At
the AGM, can someone propose that KW's work is vetoed, and get enough
members there to force that through ?
Let's pull together on this ?
Cheers,
Nev.
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