I'm with Jeremy on this one. I've flown both, and the mono is superior to
the trike out of bumpy grass strips, of which we have several up here in
Scotland. And in fact my old home field of White Waltham could also be
described as such !
2008/9/25 Jeremy Davey <europaflyer_3@msn.com>
> Karl,
>
>
> You say: "I think that almost all Europas are operating out of paved
> airports." I guess you're in the US, then? The rest of the world does
> things rather differently... hence many of your assumptions are, I'm afraid,
> incorrect.
>
>
> I am just one example of someone building a monowheel to operate with
> higher performance out of a short, bumpy grass field. There are many like
> me!
>
>
> Regards,
>
> Jeremy
>
>
> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:
> owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *Karl Heindl
> *Sent:* 25 September 2008 13:15
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* RE: Europa-List: Monowheel designs... any others out there?
>
>
> Graham,
>
> I think what Garry meant was that no aircraft designer in the fields of GA
> and commercial aviation would dream of recommending a monowheel setup like
> the Europa for a factory built aircraft.
> You are throwing in all these other types for comparison. None compare. The
> military planes were for highly specialized tasks, flown by very
> professional pilots off very large large military fields. They are all jet
> powered, hence no danger of a prop strike. The Harrier has other means of
> very precise directional control near the ground.They were all designed many
> decades ago
> Gliders and motorgliders all have very benign ground handling
> characteristics, and are stearable with the rudder down to very low speeds.
> On takeoff the towplane or winch provide additional directional control. I
> believe that the Europa monowheel is only really safe in the hands of a high
> time glider pilot.
> And safety is really the bottom line in this argument. let the statistics
> speak for themselves.
>
> The performance claims for the monowheel are also just so much
> gobbledigook. There are some trigears that outperform most monowheels.
> The original concept of being able to land on any farm field etc. is also
> out of dreamland. Why do monowheel pilots shy away from short grass fields ?
> Because a full flap and high aoa takeoff is the last thing you want for a
> short field takeoff from a bumpy grass field.
> I think that almost all Europas are operating out of paved airports.
> Lastly, there are very few alternatives to the trigear. I can only think of
> the Remos, with folding wings and a clamshell trailer. But that is in a
> different price range.
>
> Karl
>
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> > Date: Thu, 25 Sep 2008 00:52:36 +0100
> > From: grahamsingleton@btinternet.com
> > To: europa-list@matronics.com
> > Subject: Re: Europa-List: Monowheel designs... any others out there?
> >
> grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
> >
> > Garry wrote:
> > > Examples of monowheel designs have been proposed as follows:
> > >
> > > Schleiker K14............is a motor glider
> > > Glassflugel...............is a glider
> > > Schempp Hirth............is a glider
> > > DG Flugzeughbau...........is a glider
> > > SZD...........is a glider
> > > U2..........I was unable to determine if it was a monowheel or not
> > > ASW.........I was unable to determine what it was
> > >
> > > The only real airplane I've found is the Fournier RF 3,4,5, etc.
> > >
> > > Garry
> > U2 is definitely a monowheel/taildragger
> > Harrier is a monowheel nose dragger
> > btw most gliders are very real airplanes, many of them will cruise cross
> > country faster than a C152 as long as the sun shines
> > far too many "real??" airplanes have too much built in headwind.
> > btw 2. the mind is like a parachute, if it ain't open
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