Jeremy=2C
I guess I was jumping to conclusions about the grass strips. I am based at
a grass strip in Canada=2C but you are right about the US. I don't think th
at there is a single grass strip at an airport financed by public funds.
Also=2C some monos will of course outperform all trigears by a small amount
. But what does it all matter anyway=2C so long as we are all having fun.
Karl<html><div></div>
From: europaflyer_3@msn.comTo: europa-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Europa
-List: Monowheel designs... any others out there?Date: Thu=2C 25 Sep 2008 1
Karl=2C
You say: =93I think that almost all Europas are operating out of paved airp
orts.=94 I guess you=92re in the US=2C then? The rest of the world does thi
ngs rather differently... hence many of your assumptions are=2C I=92m afrai
d=2C incorrect.
I am just one example of someone building a monowheel to operate with highe
r performance out of a short=2C bumpy grass field. There are many like me!
Regards=2C
Jeremy
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com [mailto:owner-europa-list-serv
er@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Karl HeindlSent: 25 September 2008 13:15To:
europa-list@matronics.comSubject: RE: Europa-List: Monowheel designs... any
others out there?
Graham=2C I think what Garry meant was that no aircraft designer in the fi
elds of GA and commercial aviation would dream of recommending a monowheel
setup like the Europa for a factory built aircraft.You are throwing in all
these other types for comparison. None compare. The military planes were fo
r highly specialized tasks=2C flown by very professional pilots off very la
rge large military fields. They are all jet powered=2C hence no danger of a
prop strike. The Harrier has other means of very precise directional contr
ol near the ground.They were all designed many decades agoGliders and motor
gliders all have very benign ground handling characteristics=2C and are ste
arable with the rudder down to very low speeds. On takeoff the towplane or
winch provide additional directional control. I believe that the Europa mon
owheel is only really safe in the hands of a high time glider pilot.And saf
ety is really the bottom line in this argument. let the statistics speak fo
r themselves. The performance claims for the monowheel are also just so muc
h gobbledigook. There are some trigears that outperform most monowheels. Th
e original concept of being able to land on any farm field etc. is also out
of dreamland. Why do monowheel pilots shy away from short grass fields ? B
ecause a full flap and high aoa takeoff is the last thing you want for a sh
ort field takeoff from a bumpy grass field.I think that almost all Europas
are operating out of paved airports.Lastly=2C there are very few alternativ
es to the trigear. I can only think of the Remos=2C with folding wings and
a clamshell trailer. But that is in a different price range. Karl <html><d
iv></div>> Date: Thu=2C 25 Sep 2008 00:52:36 +0100> From: grahamsing
leton@btinternet.com> To: europa-list@matronics.com> Subject: Re: Europa-Li
st: Monowheel designs... any others out there?> > --> Europa-List message p
osted by: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>> > Garry wrote:
> > Examples of monowheel designs have been proposed as follows:> > > > Sch
leiker K14............is a motor glider> > Glassflugel...............is a g
lider> > Schempp Hirth............is a glider> > DG Flugzeughbau...........
is a glider> > SZD...........is a glider> > U2..........I was unable to det
ermine if it was a monowheel or not> > ASW.........I was unable to determin
e what it was> > > > The only real airplane I've found is the Fournier RF 3
=2C4=2C5=2C etc.> > > > Garry> U2 is definitely a monowheel/taildragger> Ha
rrier is a monowheel nose dragger> btw most gliders are very real airplanes
=2C many of them will cruise cross > country faster than a C152 as long as
the sun shines> far too many "real??" airplanes have too much built in head
wind.> btw 2. the mind is like a parachute=2C if it ain't open i===
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