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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Trips 2017 UK/Europe
From: davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
Date: Tue, 7 Feb 2017 17:51:30

Carl, I meant to,say FIR boundary of course! David 

On 2017-02-07 16:07, davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk wrote: 

> Carl, You may have had most of the answers you need already, but my replies 
> would
be: 
> 
> 1. RT is identical the world over for formal ATC services The only exception
to that would be that a very few French airfields have a published policy of 
French
only, and you need fairly fluent French for those. However 95%+ (?) and
none of the customs airfields are like that so it is most unlikely you will 
stumble
on such an airfield in error. Full details of all french airfields, complete
with plates are available on the SIA website (see the club website Flying
abroad section) so don't rely on some out of date French Pooleys equivalent!

> 
> 2. Yes 
> 
> 3. Yes, but once you have landed at one you can carry on throughout Shengen at
any airfield until you come to leave Schengen when you should again use a 
customs
airfield. Several trips within last year confirm this. Again consult SIA
for up to date info. 
> 
> 4. No only initial port of entry into Schengen. You could incidentally fly 
> right
across France without landing and clear customs in Germany or wherever. 
> 
> 5. English rules apply: You need an FPL if crossing an IFR boundary, or if 
> crossing
dangerous terrain, like the Alps. The occasional east europe country may
still require one for any flight but certainly not France or Germany. You will
find that most French and German airfields of any consequence will have computer
systems or phone in systems where it is easy , and quick so doing it as
you go along is straightforward. 
> 
> Currently skiing but happy to talk over any uncertainties when I return. You
will find my number in the club mag 
> 
> Regards David Joyce, trips coordinator. 
> 
> On 2017-02-03 21:44, carlp101 wrote: 
> 
>> 
>> Well. With or without other Europa pilots I'm planning to come.
>> 
>> I've only familiar with flying in the UK. I have lots of questions. I hope 
>> you
don't mind.
>> 
>> 1. Are there any differences in RT procedures in other counties? 
>> 2. Is the handover procedure between counties in Europe the same as between
the UK and France?
>> 3. I assume I have to land at a customs in France before continuing. Is that
correct?
>> 4. Do I have to land at customs in each country?
>> 5. How many flight plans do I need to file - one end-to-end plan or one per
country?
>> 
>> Perhaps it would be better to chat on the phone? If you email me privately I
can send you my contact details.
>> 
>> All the best.
>> Carl
>> 
>> Read this topic online here:
>> 
>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=465726#465726 [1]
>> 


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