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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa News
From: Raimo Toivio <raimo.toivio@rwm.fi>
Date: Fri, 28 May 2010 00:50:19
Ian

that was shocking info!

I really believed as did the whole world Peter=B4s 2nd one was really 
the 1000th.
KW was a market man but it is hard to accept it was not the 1000th.

I wish all the best for Swift (and for us, builders, operators and 
Europa owners).

The Kit Planes article made good for us (thanks for Kim Prout!).

The completed and well test flight Europa retail price: it should be 
around 80.000 - 120.000 euros when compareing for typical LSA-types.

Our Europas are much much more than any LSAs as we well know!

Please if you are forced to sell, ask more!

You Englishmen - sell worldwide - not only inside your little island 
which is full of all kind of flying items!

We are the market!

Terveisin, Raimo Toivio

Europa XS Mono OH-XRT #417 +154 hrs (that is the one and only in the 
country so it must be the most valuable in the country)

37500 Lemp=E4=E4l=E4
FINLAND

p +358-3-3753 777
f  +358-3-3753 100

toivio@fly.to
www.rwm.fi


From: G-IANI 
Sent: Wednesday, May 26, 2010 4:31 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Europa News


Raimo


To the best of my knowledge the total number of Europa kits sold to date 
is about 900.  I worked out that Peter Kember's aircraft (which KW 
decided to label the "1000th") was probably No 890.

>From 2004 to 2008 (when Swift took over) the total number of new kits 
sold was I believe 4.


Since Swift took over I believe they have sold 2 and have orders for 
about 3.


As for  the number flying this is harder to estimate.  In the UK we have 
about 170 with permits.  Worldwide your 300 is probably about right


The price of a low hours (nearly new) built Europa has, for a number of 
year, been about the cost of the parts.  Given that the buyer has to 
accept the risk of discovering faults, damage this is not surprising.  
As the aircraft get older the price drops a little.  You have to look 
very carefully at the details of the aircraft (Classic or XS, engine, 
paintwork, upholstery, avionics etc) to know if the price is fair.


On day, when I have time, I would like to research these figures as part 
of a "History of Europa".


Ian Rickard G-IANI XS Trigear, 300hours
Europa Club Mods Specialist
e-mail g-iani@ntlworld.com 



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