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Subject: RE: Europa-List: Oil Pressure Sender
From: Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info>
Date: Tue, 22 May 2007 10:17:27

Hi Carl

Demon listed both low and high range VDO gauges in the catalogue and I
noticed after I sent the first mail they said they held a lot of VDO bits
not listed and to call with your requirements.

Let me know what you manage to get - if the cost is sensible I may well get
one in as a spare.

Regards

Pete

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl Pattinson
Sent: 22 May 2007 09:53
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Oil Pressure Sender

<carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>

I will certainly put Demon Tweaks on my list.

The people I was referring to ETB are mainly bike and race car but they seem

to have all the Guages and sensors we use in the Europa and all at very 
reasonable prices.

http://www.etbinstruments.com/Sensors_ancillaries.htm

The oil sender they stock is the two pin variety which I understand is the 
one reccommended for use with the flydat. Presumably all that is required is

to earth one of the terminals - shouldnt be too difficult to figure with an 
ohmmeter.

Alternately they may be able to supply the normal one with one connection. 
They list a single connection sensor but only up to 5bar pressure. The Rotax

one needs 10bar.

I will try and give them a ring.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:29 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Oil Pressure Sender


>
> Carl
>
> Demon Tweaks (race and rally cars bits) sell the VDO gauge for 44, I 
> can't
> spot the sender in the catalogue but they must have it to go with the 
> gauge.
> Worth a call 01978 664466 or www.demon-tweeks.co.uk .  I have bought all
> sorts of odd bits from them and they are very slick with delivery.
>
> Regards
>
> Pete
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl 
> Pattinson
> Sent: 22 May 2007 08:45
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Europa-List: Oil Pressure Sender
>
> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> With aapologies if this message gets posted twice - see below
>
> Well its finally happened, my oil pressure sender is giving up the ghost. 
> It
> registers 85psi most of the time when the pressure should be nearer 50.
>
> So I thought time to replace and checked out Skydrives current price list
> 140 ****ing quid. When I recovered from the shock,  I then did an 
> internet
> search and guess what.
>
> Sonex (USA) - genuine VDO replacemet $35
> ETB instruments - VDO but different connections (two instead of one) - 28
>
> Anyone had the same experience?
>
> I would habe been happy to pay 50 for the "genuine article" but a markup 
> of
> 500% - Skydrive (UK) you have got to be taking the piss !
>
> Also whats the best way of remotely mounting the sensor so it isnt 
> affected
> by vibration - I know this subject has been extensively covered before.
>
> Carl Pattinson
> G-LABS
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:15 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: Lost message
>
>
>> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>>
>> Is it me or is there a problem with the europa list.
>>
>> I posted a message last night (about the cost of oil pressure senders) 
>> and
>
>> it has dissapeared somewhere (ie not made it on to the board).
>>
>> Just wondered - normally it only takes a couple of hours to arrive. The
>> other possibility is that my extremely efficient spam filter 
>> (Deathtospam)
>
>> has binned it.
>>
>> Carl Pattinson
>>
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>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:47 PM
>> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trailer caution
>>
>>
>>> <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>
>>> Hi! Ferg
>>> Sorry to hear of your misfortune, you must be "gutted".  Just for the
>>> record my wing carriers are made of spent conveyor belting lined with
>>> carpet attached by heavy duty upholstery glue. I don't tie the wings
>>> down but the carriers are about 12"/15" wide thereby spreading the load.
>>> However since my trailor weighs in, loaded, at about 3 tonnes and has a
>>> double axle linked weight transfer suspension nowt bounces! I do think
>>> though that to spread the load is very relevant since it reduces the psi
>>> point loading on the wing.
>>> They are also fixed laterally by the pip pins through the spar holes.
>>> Regards
>>> Bob Harrison  G-PTAG
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus Kyle
>>> Sent: 21 May 2007 15:07
>>> To: EUROPALIST
>>> Subject: Europa-List: Trailer caution
>>>
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Yesterday, a buddy and I went to the airport and recovered the
>>> Europa wings on the trailer, from the hangar. The intent was to match
>>> same
>>> to fuselage for purposes of rationalising feed-through sites for wiring
>>> and
>>> odd items. By the way, these and the other surfaces were beautifully
>>> finished by a local firm to a tough mirror finish.
>>> All was normal on the 30-minute trek back home, and we unloaded
>>> same
>>> onto brackets built to set them vertically (nose-down) prior to
>>> installing
>>> them. When we began the sequence, I noticed a discolouration on the port
>>> leading edge and discovered a smashed leading edge about two inches in
>>> diameter, right on the leading edge - right down into the blue foam.
>>> This corresponded to the position of the wing in the rubber
>>> strap
>>> (lined with bubble-wrap). I noted that the pip-pin for the strap
>>> structure
>>> hinge release sits dead-centre under the strap. Sure enough the strap
>>> was
>>> pure (?) rubber and I could stretch it downward with just my fist. There
>>> is
>>> no question that, given the odd bump neatly handled by the trailer,
>>> evolved
>>> into a surge of the wing down until the pip-pin punctured the wing.
>>> This is going to lead to at least a week's delay, in rebuilding
>>> the
>>> wing and then driving it about 70 miles on country roads to the
>>> now-retired
>>> re-finisher. He took the tools/fixtures with him to his home airport.
>>> So this is a belated warning:
>>> (a) reposition the clamp-folding pip-pin to another suitable site away
>>> from
>>> the wing leading edge, and
>>> (b) replace the rubbery slings with some (preferably white) rubber with
>>> cloth reinforcement to resist excess stretching. I'm still going to line
>>> same with bubble wrap as I have saved acres of it and it works.
>>> I will be canvassing McMaster-Carr and similar sources for same.
>>> If
>>> you are light years ahead of me and already possess same, please advise.
>>> All advice gratefully accepted.......
>>> Ferg Kyle
>>> Classic mono 914 (ten years on 24 May)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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>>>
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