Correcton to the last message.
Just spoken to ETB and the sender body is earth. The two terminals are for
the pressure guage and the other a warning light - presumably shorts to
earth when there is no oil pressure.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Oil Pressure Sender
> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
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> I will certainly put Demon Tweaks on my list.
>
> The people I was referring to ETB are mainly bike and race car but they
> seem to have all the Guages and sensors we use in the Europa and all at
> very reasonable prices.
>
> http://www.etbinstruments.com/Sensors_ancillaries.htm
>
> The oil sender they stock is the two pin variety which I understand is the
> one reccommended for use with the flydat. Presumably all that is required
> is to earth one of the terminals - shouldnt be too difficult to figure
> with an ohmmeter.
>
> Alternately they may be able to supply the normal one with one connection.
> They list a single connection sensor but only up to 5bar pressure. The
> Rotax one needs 10bar.
>
> I will try and give them a ring.
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Pete Lawless" <pete@lawless.info>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 9:29 AM
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Oil Pressure Sender
>
>
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> Demon Tweaks (race and rally cars bits) sell the VDO gauge for 44, I
>> can't
>> spot the sender in the catalogue but they must have it to go with the
>> gauge.
>> Worth a call 01978 664466 or www.demon-tweeks.co.uk . I have bought all
>> sorts of odd bits from them and they are very slick with delivery.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Pete
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Carl
>> Pattinson
>> Sent: 22 May 2007 08:45
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Europa-List: Oil Pressure Sender
>>
>> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>>
>> With aapologies if this message gets posted twice - see below
>>
>> Well its finally happened, my oil pressure sender is giving up the ghost.
>> It
>> registers 85psi most of the time when the pressure should be nearer 50.
>>
>> So I thought time to replace and checked out Skydrives current price list
>> 140 ****ing quid. When I recovered from the shock, I then did an
>> internet
>> search and guess what.
>>
>> Sonex (USA) - genuine VDO replacemet $35
>> ETB instruments - VDO but different connections (two instead of one) -
>> 28
>>
>> Anyone had the same experience?
>>
>> I would habe been happy to pay 50 for the "genuine article" but a markup
>> of
>> 500% - Skydrive (UK) you have got to be taking the piss !
>>
>> Also whats the best way of remotely mounting the sensor so it isnt
>> affected
>> by vibration - I know this subject has been extensively covered before.
>>
>> Carl Pattinson
>> G-LABS
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, May 22, 2007 8:15 AM
>> Subject: Europa-List: Lost message
>>
>>
>>> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>>>
>>> Is it me or is there a problem with the europa list.
>>>
>>> I posted a message last night (about the cost of oil pressure senders)
>>> and
>>
>>> it has dissapeared somewhere (ie not made it on to the board).
>>>
>>> Just wondered - normally it only takes a couple of hours to arrive. The
>>> other possibility is that my extremely efficient spam filter
>>> (Deathtospam)
>>
>>> has binned it.
>>>
>>> Carl Pattinson
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "R.C.Harrison" <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>>> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
>>> Sent: Monday, May 21, 2007 8:47 PM
>>> Subject: RE: Europa-List: Trailer caution
>>>
>>>
>>>> <ptag.dev@tiscali.co.uk>
>>>>
>>>> Hi! Ferg
>>>> Sorry to hear of your misfortune, you must be "gutted". Just for the
>>>> record my wing carriers are made of spent conveyor belting lined with
>>>> carpet attached by heavy duty upholstery glue. I don't tie the wings
>>>> down but the carriers are about 12"/15" wide thereby spreading the
>>>> load.
>>>> However since my trailor weighs in, loaded, at about 3 tonnes and has a
>>>> double axle linked weight transfer suspension nowt bounces! I do think
>>>> though that to spread the load is very relevant since it reduces the
>>>> psi
>>>> point loading on the wing.
>>>> They are also fixed laterally by the pip pins through the spar holes.
>>>> Regards
>>>> Bob Harrison G-PTAG
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>>>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Fergus
>>>> Kyle
>>>> Sent: 21 May 2007 15:07
>>>> To: EUROPALIST
>>>> Subject: Europa-List: Trailer caution
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Yesterday, a buddy and I went to the airport and recovered the
>>>> Europa wings on the trailer, from the hangar. The intent was to match
>>>> same
>>>> to fuselage for purposes of rationalising feed-through sites for wiring
>>>> and
>>>> odd items. By the way, these and the other surfaces were beautifully
>>>> finished by a local firm to a tough mirror finish.
>>>> All was normal on the 30-minute trek back home, and we unloaded
>>>> same
>>>> onto brackets built to set them vertically (nose-down) prior to
>>>> installing
>>>> them. When we began the sequence, I noticed a discolouration on the
>>>> port
>>>> leading edge and discovered a smashed leading edge about two inches in
>>>> diameter, right on the leading edge - right down into the blue foam.
>>>> This corresponded to the position of the wing in the rubber
>>>> strap
>>>> (lined with bubble-wrap). I noted that the pip-pin for the strap
>>>> structure
>>>> hinge release sits dead-centre under the strap. Sure enough the strap
>>>> was
>>>> pure (?) rubber and I could stretch it downward with just my fist.
>>>> There
>>>> is
>>>> no question that, given the odd bump neatly handled by the trailer,
>>>> evolved
>>>> into a surge of the wing down until the pip-pin punctured the wing.
>>>> This is going to lead to at least a week's delay, in rebuilding
>>>> the
>>>> wing and then driving it about 70 miles on country roads to the
>>>> now-retired
>>>> re-finisher. He took the tools/fixtures with him to his home airport.
>>>> So this is a belated warning:
>>>> (a) reposition the clamp-folding pip-pin to another suitable site away
>>>> from
>>>> the wing leading edge, and
>>>> (b) replace the rubbery slings with some (preferably white) rubber with
>>>> cloth reinforcement to resist excess stretching. I'm still going to
>>>> line
>>>> same with bubble wrap as I have saved acres of it and it works.
>>>> I will be canvassing McMaster-Carr and similar sources for same.
>>>> If
>>>> you are light years ahead of me and already possess same, please
>>>> advise.
>>>> All advice gratefully accepted.......
>>>> Ferg Kyle
>>>> Classic mono 914 (ten years on 24 May)
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