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Re: Europa-List: Thank you, John Lawton.

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Thank you, John Lawton.
From: Jeff B <topglock@cox.net>
Date: Tue, 8 May 2007 15:12:44
Good question, Fred.  I'll have to look, next time I go out... ;)

Jeff

Fred Klein wrote:
> Thanks for the pixs Jeff....looks very slick and tidy.
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> Is the width of the styrene wide enough to maintain the seal when the 
> flaps are deployed?...or have you designed it so that a gap appears 
> and allows for airflow thru the slot?
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> Fred
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> On Tuesday, May 8, 2007, at 10:51 AM, Jeff B wrote:
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>     Pete and all,
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>     I finally found the time and the photos.  You can see the process
>     and end result here: 
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> _http://www.europaowners.org/modules.php?set_albumName=Flap-Seals-Baby-Blue&op=modload&name=gallery&file=index&include=view_album.php
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>     _Jeff - Baby Blue
>     285 hours
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>     Pete Lawless wrote:
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>     14 Hantone Hill
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>     Jeff
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>      
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>     That rather suggests that this gap seal does not just block the
>     gap with the flaps up but improves the airflow over the flap
>     though the gap when the flaps are down.
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>      
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>     Is there a picture of it anywhere?
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>     Regards
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>      
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>     Pete
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>     -----Original Message-----
>     *From:* _owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com_
>     [_mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com_] *On Behalf
>     Of*Jeff B
>     *Sent:* 07 May 2007 16:06
>     *To:* _europa-list@matronics.com
>     _*Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Thank you, John Lawton.
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>      
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>      Flaps down...
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>     Jeff
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>     Pete Lawless wrote:
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>     _<pete@lawless.info>_
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>     Jeff
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>     Are you talking about landing flap up or flap down?
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>      
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>     Regards
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>      
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>     Pete
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>      
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>     -----Original Message-----
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>     From: _owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com_
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>     [_mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com_] On Behalf Of
>     William Mills
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>     Sent: 07 May 2007 08:10
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>     To: _europa-list@matronics.com_
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>     Subject: Re: Europa-List: Thank you, John Lawton.
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>      
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>     _<william@wrmills.plus.com>_
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>     Jeff,
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>     Why does the tape need to be so wide, or does it just come in 2
>     1/4" widths?
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>     If you get a chance, perhaps you could publish a photo.
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>     Best wishes,
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>     William
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>      
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>     ----- Original Message -----
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>     From: "Rman" _<topglock@cox.net>_
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>     To: _<europa-list@matronics.com>_
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>     Sent: Sunday, May 06, 2007 3:51 PM
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>     Subject: Europa-List: Thank you, John Lawton.
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>      
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>     Last year, I had the pleasure of flying into John's airstrip, in
>     Tennessee
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>     and visiting with him and his near finished bird, for a while.  In
>     our
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>     conversation, John mentioned how sealing up the aircraft would
>     clean up
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>     the lines, resulting in better speeds.  As John said, the glider
>     guys do
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>     it and it works.  Well, while I had Baby Blue disassembled and was
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>     cleaning her up for Sun-N-Fun (which she did not make, as she was
>     still
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>     ailing from the weak carb spring incident) I decided to add some
>     gap seals
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>     to the wing, to seal the flaps, upon retraction.  What I used was
>     a 2.25"
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>     wide piece of .020" styrene, a product that I use, almost daily in my
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>     sign/graphics business.  I attached it to the wing using 1" hem
>     tape (a
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>     very strong, two sided tape, used to hem banners).  Once the
>     engine was
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>     restored to normal operating condition, the results were immediate
>     and
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>     astounding.  I haven't done a complete test, yet, but the results
>     seems to
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>     have yielded about 4-5 kph at cruise.  It has also resulted in
>     more float,
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>     during landing, which I attribute to reduced stall speeds.  I say
>     reduced
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>     stall speeds, because, by reducing my final approach from 65 kph
>     to 60
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>     kph, across the numbers, Baby Blue lands like she used to.  I'll
>     be doing
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>     more extensive tests, as the weather settles.  However, I am
>     extremely
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>     pleased with the initial results of the simple and inexpensive mod.
>
>     Thanks again, John for your suggestion...
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>     Jeff - Baby Blue
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>     284 hours
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