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Re: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....

Subject: Re: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....
From: Garry <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 14:39:32

Jeremy,  for those of us who speak "American" English, what exactly is a 
"wanker", and a "tosser".  If addressed as such I need to know whether I 
should be insulted, or flattered.

Garry Stout


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....


>
> Folks,
>
> I admit I=92m starting to get a bit pissed off here in Oxfordshire=85 
> There seem
> to be no end to the postings saying the PFA are a wunch of bankers,
> Engineering are particular tossers, and I=92m a toe-rag (or worse), too, 
> for
> being a part of that organisation.
>
> Can I just make a few points clear?
>
> 1)        Well done to all those who actually got their finger out and 
> sent
> one of the emails that got Graham Newby to change his mind. That is the
> right way to achieve results.
> 2)        It seems to me that the PFA is now FULLY aware of the depth of 
> our
> feelings about Wilson and the use of SFB images, the organisation HAS
> listened.
> Further, it is my honest belief that until a flood of emails landed in
> Graham Newby=92s Inbox, he was just regarding it as one or two whingers.
> Before anyone takes offence at that, please bear in mind that he (and I!)
> are bombarded with emails, a significant proportion of which are from
> whingers and go along the lines of: =93I bought a model F of my chosen 
> engine
> when model H is the approved one, because it cost me three-and-sixpence
> instead of fourteen grand, and PFA Engineering are tossers for not letting
> me just bolt it on and go flying=94. It is probably worth noting that it 
> costs
> the PFA a four-figure sum to undertake the work necessary to approve the
> model F version =96 in order to save the one member 14000 =96 0/3/6 
> pounds.
> 3)        The issue of the use of SFB is an issue that has been going on 
> some
> time with the PFA. The Club has raised it, I=92ve raised it (and have been
> lobbied continually =96 and politely - by Sean O=92Reilly about it), and 
> finally
> the strength of feeling has become known.
> 4)        Engineering was in one hell of a mess operationally from about 2
> years ago until recently. It is still dragging itself out of there and
> significant pressure and appropriate support is being given to the
> management to get it out of that mess as soon as possible. I=92m working 
> my
> bollocks off to resolve the problems and provide the sort of service that 
> I
> think the PFA members deserve. Let me also make it quite clear that I have
> made it absolutely clear to Engineering that I expect no favours for being
> on the EC, and am therefore subject to just the same frustrations as
> everyone else. I would not normally post this information publicly, but in
> view of the attack on me by one contributor to this list yesterday, I 
> think
> it=92s important to do so now.
> 5)        The PFA is not yet perfect, but it is all we=92ve got in the UK. 
> There
> is a huge amount going on at European level and UK government level that
> needs resolving NOW. The only viable way of ensuring that our voice is 
> heard
> during this process is to ensure that the PFA is in a position to campaign
> effectively on our behalf. Again, I=92m taking a leading part in that with 
> the
> forming of the Campaigning Aviators Network to coordinate volunteers in
> lobbying the various bodies. It is noted that the individual mentioned 
> above
> has not volunteered to join CAN.
> 6)        I have got much better things to do. I get married four weeks
> tomorrow. I=92m moving house. I=92ve a plane to build. I=92ve a full-time 
> job. The
> sort of attacks I=92ve seen on this list leave me wondering if I=92m just
> wasting my time. I used to enjoy playing with steam engines, but that has
> ended up somewhat on a back-burner (no pun intended), largely due to
> commitments like the PFA and the Club. I=92m seriously considering getting 
> my
> shovel out and polishing it ready for action again=85
> 7)        Finally, and probably the most important point for individuals
> wanting to get =91jobs=92 through Engineering =96 there is a system: so 
> use it!
> There is no such thing as a =91variant option=92 with a mod. The process 
> is to
> apply for a mod, on the correct forms, and in the correct manner. I for 
> one
> do not believe it is arrogant for Engineering to ask a member to follow 
> the
> process. It isn=92t hard for heaven=92s sake! On this subject, I and a 
> number of
> other EC members have been putting in a lot of work exploring, among other
> items, how we can reduce the cost to members. One answer that came out
> clearly was to change the system so that those who do a decent job of 
> their
> mods get them through sooner and more cheaply. That we are now working
> towards.
>
> If, after reading this, anyone still thinks I=92m a tosser, please advise 
> me
> directly! I=92ll be listening, and will expect a strong justification.
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Davey
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
> PFA EC Member
> =93If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it 
> is
> possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.=94
> Tail done
> Standard XS wings with mods underway
> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> 1400 build hours to date
> Intended fit:
> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
>
> 



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