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Re: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....

Subject: Re: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....
From: Garry <garrys@tampabay.rr.com>
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:04:21

Thanks for the clarification!

Garry

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
Subject: RE: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....


>
> :-) That depends on whether being a wanker or a tosser is something you
> aspire to! :-)
>
> Both refer to someone who engages in solo sexual activity.
>
> Regards,
> Jeremy
>
> Jeremy Davey
> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
> Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
> PFA EC Member
> If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it is
> possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
> Tail done
> Standard XS wings with mods underway
> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
> 1400 build hours to date
> Intended fit:
> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Garry
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....
>
>
> Jeremy,  for those of us who speak "American" English, what exactly is a
> "wanker", and a "tosser".  If addressed as such I need to know whether I
> should be insulted, or flattered.
>
> Garry Stout
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....
>
>
>>
>> Folks,
>>
>> I admit I=92m starting to get a bit pissed off here in Oxfordshire=85
>> There seem
>> to be no end to the postings saying the PFA are a wunch of bankers,
>> Engineering are particular tossers, and I=92m a toe-rag (or worse), too,
>> for
>> being a part of that organisation.
>>
>> Can I just make a few points clear?
>>
>> 1)        Well done to all those who actually got their finger out and
>> sent
>> one of the emails that got Graham Newby to change his mind. That is the
>> right way to achieve results.
>> 2)        It seems to me that the PFA is now FULLY aware of the depth of
>> our
>> feelings about Wilson and the use of SFB images, the organisation HAS
>> listened.
>> Further, it is my honest belief that until a flood of emails landed in
>> Graham Newby=92s Inbox, he was just regarding it as one or two whingers.
>> Before anyone takes offence at that, please bear in mind that he (and I!)
>> are bombarded with emails, a significant proportion of which are from
>> whingers and go along the lines of: =93I bought a model F of my chosen
>> engine
>> when model H is the approved one, because it cost me three-and-sixpence
>> instead of fourteen grand, and PFA Engineering are tossers for not 
>> letting
>> me just bolt it on and go flying=94. It is probably worth noting that it
>> costs
>> the PFA a four-figure sum to undertake the work necessary to approve the
>> model F version =96 in order to save the one member 14000 =96 0/3/6
>> pounds.
>> 3)        The issue of the use of SFB is an issue that has been going on
>> some
>> time with the PFA. The Club has raised it, I=92ve raised it (and have 
>> been
>> lobbied continually =96 and politely - by Sean O=92Reilly about it), and
>> finally
>> the strength of feeling has become known.
>> 4)        Engineering was in one hell of a mess operationally from about 
>> 2
>> years ago until recently. It is still dragging itself out of there and
>> significant pressure and appropriate support is being given to the
>> management to get it out of that mess as soon as possible. I=92m working
>> my
>> bollocks off to resolve the problems and provide the sort of service that
>> I
>> think the PFA members deserve. Let me also make it quite clear that I 
>> have
>> made it absolutely clear to Engineering that I expect no favours for 
>> being
>> on the EC, and am therefore subject to just the same frustrations as
>> everyone else. I would not normally post this information publicly, but 
>> in
>> view of the attack on me by one contributor to this list yesterday, I
>> think
>> it=92s important to do so now.
>> 5)        The PFA is not yet perfect, but it is all we=92ve got in the 
>> UK.
>
>> There
>> is a huge amount going on at European level and UK government level that
>> needs resolving NOW. The only viable way of ensuring that our voice is
>> heard
>> during this process is to ensure that the PFA is in a position to 
>> campaign
>> effectively on our behalf. Again, I=92m taking a leading part in that 
>> with
>
>> the
>> forming of the Campaigning Aviators Network to coordinate volunteers in
>> lobbying the various bodies. It is noted that the individual mentioned
>> above
>> has not volunteered to join CAN.
>> 6)        I have got much better things to do. I get married four weeks
>> tomorrow. I=92m moving house. I=92ve a plane to build. I=92ve a full-time
>> job. The
>> sort of attacks I=92ve seen on this list leave me wondering if I=92m just
>> wasting my time. I used to enjoy playing with steam engines, but that has
>> ended up somewhat on a back-burner (no pun intended), largely due to
>> commitments like the PFA and the Club. I=92m seriously considering 
>> getting
>
>> my
>> shovel out and polishing it ready for action again=85
>> 7)        Finally, and probably the most important point for individuals
>> wanting to get =91jobs=92 through Engineering =96 there is a system: so
>> use it!
>> There is no such thing as a =91variant option=92 with a mod. The process
>> is to
>> apply for a mod, on the correct forms, and in the correct manner. I for
>> one
>> do not believe it is arrogant for Engineering to ask a member to follow
>> the
>> process. It isn=92t hard for heaven=92s sake! On this subject, I and a
>> number of
>> other EC members have been putting in a lot of work exploring, among 
>> other
>> items, how we can reduce the cost to members. One answer that came out
>> clearly was to change the system so that those who do a decent job of
>> their
>> mods get them through sooner and more cheaply. That we are now working
>> towards.
>>
>> If, after reading this, anyone still thinks I=92m a tosser, please advise
>> me
>> directly! I=92ll be listening, and will expect a strong justification.
>>
>> Regards,
>> Jeremy
>>
>> Jeremy Davey
>> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>> Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
>> PFA EC Member
>> =93If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then 
>> it
>
>> is
>> possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.=94
>> Tail done
>> Standard XS wings with mods underway
>> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
>> 1400 build hours to date
>> Intended fit:
>> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
>> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>>
>>
>>
>
>
> 



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