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Re: Aileron trim servo location

Subject: Re: Aileron trim servo location
From: Terry Seaver <terrys@cisco.com>
Date: Fri, 5 May 2000 15:57:37
carl@photos.prestel.co.uk wrote:

> Hi Kim,
>
> Thanks for the info. I am surprised Europa themselves never mentioned the
> need for an aileron trim . It is always that much easier to build these
> things in at the beginng rather than adding them earlier on. I have never
> heard it mentioned until now (If I am wrong I am sure Andy from Europa will
> correct me !) .
>
> Having said that we are still buliding and have a Navaid wing leveller
> waiting to be installed. In theory this should do the same job or does
> someone know better.
>
> Incidentally I used to fly gliders and owned a K6E. This had an all flying
> tail plane like the Europa but this was trimmed (for pitch) using a large
> spring attached to a lever on the control column (Could be very interesting
> on takeoff due to PIO's - Pilot Induced Oscillations !!!). Would it be
> possible to effect aileron trim using the same principle (ie- the spring
> taking the sideways load that would otherwise be taken by the pilots arm ).
> This would at least save an unsightly tab attached to the trailing edge. The
> spring could be connected to fork at the bottom of one of the the control
> columns using a lever to increase or decrease the sideways tension. This is
> the same point where we intend to connect our Navaid servo.
>
> Its just a thought - dont know how practical though.
>
> Regards,
>
> Carl
>

I have been told that the Navaid does not particularly like
an out of trim airplane, and hunts a little. It is not clear just
how bad  the out of trim needs to be, so we will wait on the trim
installation until after flight testing.

It is our intention to use a spring type trim, if needed, at the
aileron control fork under the pilot's legs (the fork the stick
pivots on).  Two springs, one each side of the fork, would
connect to the ends of an arm with a pivot at its center,
with sufficient friction on the center pivot to hold a
particular trim set. This is very similar to an aileron trim
mechanism used on many longEZ's, and I believe the
same or similar to what Kim Prout uses.

We are mounting our Navaid servo to the control
fork under the passenger's legs, inside the storage
compartment closest to the wheel well.

Terry Seaver
A135



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