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Subject: Re: Europa-List: Viking Aircraft engine
From: Peter Zutrauen <peterz@zutrasoft.com>
Date: Fri, 27 Jan 2012 08:23:37
fwiw, I've subscribed to his email group list and have been watching the
banter with interest. I too have heard not-to-good things about the fellow.
His on-line demeanor, and his answers to my in-person questions to him at
Osh two years ago suggest arrogance.

My issues with the design are 1- the prop turns the 'wrong' way. 2- he uses
a rubber coupler in an attempt to deal with harmonic resonances, and from
my EAA chapter colleagues experiences (with other redrives) and also my
research on this topic, this damper will not be able to dissipate the power
at the resonance peak (typically at lower rpms and power settings.... just
above idle) for any extended durations. When asked about this design he
didn't really answer it other than stating that the built-in fan 'blades'
in the starter ring gear were designed to cool it.

I think the Honda block has promise tho - it's the same engine that is
raced in the amateur leagues, and also the same one they use in their
outboard marine engines.

Time will tell I guess whether his installation is more sound than his
previous efforts with the Subarus

Cheers,
Pete


On Fri, Jan 27, 2012 at 7:27 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell@etb.net.co>wrote:

>
> Yes I too looked at this option but as garry points out, and without
> knowing
> Eggenfelner, I saw a lot of negative stuff on the web and also you see
> quite
> a few of his engines for sale...being changed out for something else.  This
> generates a significant degree of caution in me at least.  He might well
> have got it right this time.
>
> I think the base Honda fit engine is a very interesting powerplant and the
> volume and quality control is unlikely to have the manufacturing problems
> that the aviation manufacturers have like dodgy cranks but I am personally
> am not up for the experimentation process required to get it flying.
>
> There was a chap flying in Canada whose name escapes me with a
> Honda/CAM100.
>
> Will
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Garry Stout
> Sent: 26 January, 2012 20:54
> To: europa-list@matronics.com
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Viking Aircraft engine
>
>
> This engine is being sold by Eggenfeller.........formerly selling the
> Subaru
> engine conversions.  Those Subaru engines turned out to be completely
> unreliable and downright dangerous.  I know nothing about his latest
> project, the Honda conversion, but based on his previous engines, I
> wouldn't
> trust him.  Google his name and you'll get a real education.
>
> Garry Stout
>
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
> On Jan 26, 2012, at 1:18 PM, William McClellan <wilwood@earthlink.net>
> wrote:
>
> <wilwood@earthlink.net>
> >
> > Bud or anyone,
> > This seems to be a very nice engine for the Europa, a Viking Honda
> aircraft engine.  The Viking shop in in Edgewater, FL.  Do you know
> anything
> about this engine?  It is the Honda 1500 cc, 117 hp, 6300 rpm max, 2.33/1
> reduction drive, fuel injected, liquid cooled, 178 lb dry weight, fully
> developed package for aircraft use.  The package includes 40A Alternator,
> Dual Engine controllers,  Exhaust / Muffler, Air intake, K&N Filter,
> Starter, Radiator, Oil cooler, fuel pumps and Engine mounting for your
> airplane.   The engine is fully assembled.   $13,000   Looks like a very
> good alternative to the Rotax.  They haven't yet but likely to develop
> retro
> fitable turbo-charge down the road.
> > Thanks,
> > Bill McClellan
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>


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