That's exactly what I did, Steve, and the material gave way, before the
Redux did. My Redux was about 5 years old, when tested. Baby Blue
shows no signs of weak joints in 400 hours and she was built with this
glue...
Jeff
Steve Hagar wrote:
> I and others have mentioned this before on this site about expiration
> dates on the Redux. Alot of that is due to how long they want to keep
> records and liability. If you are concerned about the suitability of
> the material concerning its expriation date make a test coupon. Make a
> lap sample of the thickness or number of plies of fiberglass etc that
> you are anticipating to bond in service and do a destructive test. If
> the fibereglass breaks or tears before the bond separates you can
> reasonably be assured your material is still good.
>
> Steve Hagar
> A143
> Mesa AZ
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* craig bastin <mailto:craigb@onthenet.com.au>
> *To: *europa-list@matronics.com <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* 5/23/2008 2:01:30 PM
> *Subject:* RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
>
> I dont know about your expiry times Bud, Are you sure they are
> sending you new batches.
> Like you I am forced to buy the six quart cases and the last one I got,
> new from the australian distributor in september 07 and it is
> quoting an expiry of june 2010
> price was much the same $1280 a case of 6
>
> craig
>
> -----Original Message-----
> *From:* owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com]*On Behalf Of
> *ALAN YERLY
> *Sent:* Saturday, 24 May 2008 4:14 AM
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
>
> Roger, and other Europa Builders in need of Redux also known as
> Araldite 420 or Epibond 420 A/B.
>
> I order Redux in cases direct through my long time distributor
> TAPE. As there is no other acceptable substitute for Redux, for
> the Europa and as a result I am still buying it in bulk and
> shipping it. I have looked for substitutes, and many epoxies
> are as strong, but none as ductile or willing to be used in
> aircraft.
>
> I have been informed by my US distributor of Epibond 420 A/B
> (Redux) that the manufacturer, Huntsman Products in
> California, has restructured their pricing and packaging. I
> have been in contact with my distributor and Huntsman over the
> last four months trying to resolve the issue. Gladly, Huntsman
> has at least changed their policy and have agreed to
> distribute Epibond 420 in 6 quart cases again. Unfortunately,
> Huntsman has nearly doubled the price per case with no
> significant bulk discounts available for multiple cases. I've
> researched importing fresh Redux from overseas and it is
> slightly more costly due to the weak dollar and high
> shipping/hazardous fees.
>
> If I order soon, and I can still combine with other
> distributors I can get 6 quarts for about $280 a quart plus
> shipping to you (typically $20). Yes, I know that is $120 more
> than last year. Airbus is the primary user so if anyone knows
> someone at Airbus that can steal you some and smuggle it into
> the states, we are stuck with some pretty ugly prices.
>
> Delivery is 30-45 days to me so it will all be a fresh batch.
> Shelf life is a year opened or unopened but usually good for at
> least two if unopened.
>
> I have tentative orders for 2-3 quarts so far. I need three others.
>
> Bud Yerly
> Custom Flight Creations
> Europa Distributor
> Cell 813-244-8354
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roger Lowe <mailto:rlowe@speedway.ca>
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> <mailto:europa-list@matronics.com>
> *Sent:* Friday, May 23, 2008 12:09 PM
> *Subject:* Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
>
> <rlowe@speedway.ca <mailto:rlowe@speedway.ca>>
>
> Everyone,
>
> Has anyone been able to source Araldite 420 and Araldite
> 2102 (rapid epoxy) in the US or Canada? If you have, can you
> forward me their contact information.
>
> The stuff from my partially completed kit that I have
> purchased has expired. The stuff I believe is classified as
> hazardous material for shipping and I'm in Canada so I'll
> need to find out if the vendor can ship it here too.
>
> OR
>
> Is there an "approved" alternative that can be used that is
> readily available in US or Canada?
>
> Thanks,
>
> Roger Lowe
> A252
>
>
>
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