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Re: Re: Europa-List: woodcomp/kremen props [was: conventional gear]

Subject: Re: Re: Europa-List: woodcomp/kremen props [was: conventional gear]
From: Michel Auvray <mau11@free.fr>
Date: Thu, 1 Dec 2005 09:41:10

Bonjour Rowland,
Yes I know, here in France there is many woodcomp propellers installed on 912 
since
long time with total satisfaction (before it is Kremen Junkers) but my problem
is an authorized letter to use this propeller on 912 from Europa to the
DGAC.
Not a letter with experiment report.

 bientt, 

======= le 30/11/2005, 23:40:55 vous criviez: =======

>
>
>>I use a SR2000 on my aircraft since 9 month the result is good
>
>Michel - thanks for the update - I have not heard any bad reports of 
>the Kremen/Woodcomp props.
>
>>But the problem in France is French civil aviation administration 
>>(DGAC) they recognize only the kit manufacturer not the PFA.
>>To day this propeller is not recognize by Europa because they sales 
>>Airmaster propeller, and the company do not give a letter to the 
>>French administration to use the woodcomp propeller, and to day we 
>>are grounded with this propeller
>
>If I understand correctly - you're saying that your Europa is now 
>grounded after operating OK with this prop for the previous 9 months. 
>And if you cannot get some sort of approval document from the Europa 
>factory, you must fit a different prop (Warp Drive, I assume) before 
>you can fly again. If the DGAC allowed it to be fitted and used in 
>the first place, why did they change their mind - was there an 
>incident that prompted this grounding?
>
>>What solution do we have?
>
>I know that for various changes ("mods") to the Europa, PFA 
>Engineering have asked the Europa company for a "letter of no 
>technical objection" before approving the change. Perhaps this is 
>also the case when fitting a prop different from the 
>factory-recommended one. If so, Bryan Allsop would know as it seems 
>he (or maybe William Mills? - more info is coming in daily!) was the 
>first to fit a Kremen / Woodcomp prop to a 912S in UK. I am certain 
>that David Joyce was the pioneer for the Kremen / 914 combination.
>
>IF such a letter was sent to the PFA by Europa, and IF Europa could 
>be persuaded to send a similar letter (or just a photocopy?) to the 
>right person at the DGAC, and IF that would be enough to satisfy the 
>DGAC, maybe there is a solution!
>
>I suggest Bryan (912S), David (914) or Tim Houlihan (912) contact you 
>off-list if they know of the existence of a "letter of no technical 
>objection" referring to the Kremen / Woodcomp prop. The letter (if it 
>exists) may be specific to the type of engine, so I think Tim might 
>be your best contact as I believe you have a 912. If not 
>engine-specific, probably David might be best.
>
>Hope this is of some help!
>
>regards
>
>Rowland
>-- 
>| Rowland Carson (retiring) Europa Club Membership Secretary - email for info!
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>
>

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Michel Auvray
mau11@free.fr
01/12/2005



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