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Re: Europa-List: gas mixing

Subject: Re: Europa-List: gas mixing
From: kbcarpenter@comcast.net
Date: Wed, 20 Apr 2005 21:46:12

Ok it's a stupid question.  I was thinking of the times when traveling and 
one can get auto fuel and 100 LL at the same airport.  If you mixed them, 
you would be loading the engine with less lead.  I realize one can use TCP 
also to reduce the lead build-up.  In the US, fields that have auto gas only 
have 87 octane so it cannot be used in the 914.
ken
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duncan McFadyean" <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: gas mixing


> <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
>
> MON = Motor Octane Number. There is no direct relationship between RON and
> MON and the difference between the two in the case of a single fuel is 
> used
> as a measure of temperature sensitivity.
>
> Duncan mcF.
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@msn.com>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Subject: RE: Europa-List: gas mixing
>
>
>>
>> Richard and Ken,
>>
>> I may be wrong, but is it possible Ken is confusing octane ratings. 87
>> octane at the pumps in the US is 87 Octane MON (Mean Octane Number?),
>> whereas the 95 octane stuff we're told to use in Europa is 95 Octane RON
>> (Research Octane Number).
>>
>> The two are not the same measure, and MON gives a lower number than RON.
>> 87MON is not far from 95RON, but my recommendation would be to do an MSN
>> Search for these terms and come to an educated understanding of which 
>> auto
>> gas you can use in the US.
>>
>> Either that, or ask a few folks flying Rotaxes what they use! :-)
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Jeremy
>>
>> Jeremy Davey
>> Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
>> Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative
>> PFA EC Member
>> If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, then it 
>> is
>> possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.
>> Tail done
>> Standard XS wings with mods underway
>> CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
>> 1380 build hours to date
>> Intended fit:
>> Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
>> Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
>> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of R Holder
>> To: europa-list@matronics.com
>> Subject: Re: Europa-List: gas mixing
>>
>>
>> kenneth b. carpenter wrote:
>> > carpenter" <kbcarpenter@comcast.net>
>> >
>> > Has anyone explored the issue of mixing 50/50  87
>> > octane auto gas with 100 LL to get 93 octane gas for
>> > 914T engines?  I think 912S engines also need 93 octane
>> > gas.  Sounds like it would be better for the engine
>> > than 100LL alone. Ken Carpenter N 9XS  914T
>>
>> Why not just use 91 or 93 octane Auto gas !
>>
>> If you are carting auto gas into your hanger to mix it
>> with Avgas, why not just use auto gas ?
>>
>> 912 912S and 914 all run on Mogas (auto gas) and the oil
>> needs to be changed every 25 hours if more than 30% Avgas
>> is used. The oil changes are at 50 hour intervals if you
>> use Mogas.
>>
>> Mogas is also cheaper ($5 a US gal here in England)
>> compared with over $7 a US gal for AVGAS.
>>
>> Richard Holder
>> Europa TriGear G-OWWW High Cross
>>
>>
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