Craig
I have been using the A420 I got with the kit in about 1966 and believe the
conponents are long lasting - but now that you have spoken I will run at test
before next use.
JR (Bob) Gowing UK Kit 327 NSW in Oz
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
To: europa-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Saturday, May 24, 2008 11:39 AM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
Yes i did that with mine, but the joints i did all came apart by hand. Dont
know but i think that qualifies as a FAIL
I just use it for fixing bits around the house now, plenty for that
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of Steve Hagar
Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 10:22 AM
To: europa-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
I and others have mentioned this before on this site about expiration dates
on the Redux. Alot of that is due to how long they want to keep records and
liability. If you are concerned about the suitability of the material
concerning its expriation date make a test coupon. Make a lap sample of the
thickness or number of plies of fiberglass etc that you are anticipating to
bond in service and do a destructive test. If the fibereglass breaks or tears
before the bond separates you can reasonably be assured your material is still
good.
Steve Hagar
A143
Mesa AZ
----- Original Message -----
From: craig bastin
To: europa-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: 5/23/2008 2:01:30 PM
Subject: RE: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
I dont know about your expiry times Bud, Are you sure they are sending
you new batches.
Like you I am forced to buy the six quart cases and the last one I got,
new from the australian distributor in september 07 and it is quoting an
expiry of june 2010
price was much the same $1280 a case of 6
craig
-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@xxxxxxxxxxxxx]On Behalf Of ALAN YERLY
Sent: Saturday, 24 May 2008 4:14 AM
To: europa-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
Roger, and other Europa Builders in need of Redux also known as
Araldite 420 or Epibond 420 A/B.
I order Redux in cases direct through my long time distributor TAPE.
As there is no other acceptable substitute for Redux, for the Europa and as a
result I am still buying it in bulk and shipping it. I have looked for
substitutes, and many epoxies are as strong, but none as ductile or willing to
be used in aircraft.
I have been informed by my US distributor of Epibond 420 A/B (Redux)
that the manufacturer, Huntsman Products in California, has restructured their
pricing and packaging. I have been in contact with my distributor and
Huntsman over the last four months trying to resolve the issue. Gladly,
Huntsman has at least changed their policy and have agreed to distribute
Epibond 420 in 6 quart cases again. Unfortunately, Huntsman has nearly doubled
the price per case with no significant bulk discounts available for multiple
cases. I've researched importing fresh Redux from overseas and it is
slightly more costly due to the weak dollar and high shipping/hazardous fees.
If I order soon, and I can still combine with other distributors I can
get 6 quarts for about $280 a quart plus shipping to you (typically $20). Yes,
I know that is $120 more than last year. Airbus is the primary user so if
anyone knows someone at Airbus that can steal you some and smuggle it into the
states, we are stuck with some pretty ugly prices.
Delivery is 30-45 days to me so it will all be a fresh batch. Shelf
life is a year opened or unopened but usually good for at least two if unopened.
I have tentative orders for 2-3 quarts so far. I need three others.
Bud Yerly
Custom Flight Creations
Europa Distributor
Cell 813-244-8354
----- Original Message -----
From: Roger Lowe
To: europa-list@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
Sent: Friday, May 23, 2008 12:09 PM
Subject: Europa-List: Araldite 420/2102 - Availabilty
--> Europa-List message posted by: "Roger Lowe" <rlowe@xxxxxxxxxxx>
Everyone,
Has anyone been able to source Araldite 420 and Araldite 2102 (rapid
epoxy) in the US or Canada? If you have, can you forward me their contact
information.
The stuff from my partially completed kit that I have purchased has
expired. The stuff I believe is classified as hazardous material for shipping
and I'm in Canada so I'll need to find out if the vendor can ship it here too.
OR
Is there an "approved" alternative that can be used that is readily
available in US or Canada?
Thanks,
Roger Lowe
A252
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