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RE: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....

Subject: RE: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....
Date: Fri, 27 May 2005 20:14:00

Go Jeremy answer that one. This I must see :-)

Alan

-----Original Message-----
From: owner-europa-list-server@xxxxxxxxxxxxx
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@xxxxxxxxxxxxx] On Behalf Of Garry
Subject: Re: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....


Jeremy,  for those of us who speak "American" English, what exactly is a

"wanker", and a "tosser".  If addressed as such I need to know whether I

should be insulted, or flattered.

Garry Stout


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jeremy Davey" <EuropaFlyer_3@xxxxxxx>
Subject: Europa-List: PFA, Wilson, PFA Engineering, etc.....


--> <EuropaFlyer_3@xxxxxxx>

Folks,

I admit I=92m starting to get a bit pissed off here in Oxfordshire=85
There seem
to be no end to the postings saying the PFA are a wunch of bankers,
Engineering are particular tossers, and I=92m a toe-rag (or worse),
too, 
for
being a part of that organisation.

Can I just make a few points clear?

1)        Well done to all those who actually got their finger out and

sent
one of the emails that got Graham Newby to change his mind. That is 
the right way to achieve results.
2)        It seems to me that the PFA is now FULLY aware of the depth
of 
our
feelings about Wilson and the use of SFB images, the organisation HAS 
listened. Further, it is my honest belief that until a flood of emails

landed in Graham Newby=92s Inbox, he was just regarding it as one or 
two whingers. Before anyone takes offence at that, please bear in mind

that he (and I!) are bombarded with emails, a significant proportion 
of which are from whingers and go along the lines of: =93I bought a 
model F of my chosen engine
when model H is the approved one, because it cost me
three-and-sixpence
instead of fourteen grand, and PFA Engineering are tossers for not
letting
me just bolt it on and go flying=94. It is probably worth noting that
it 
costs
the PFA a four-figure sum to undertake the work necessary to approve
the
model F version =96 in order to save the one member 14000 =96 0/3/6 
pounds.
3)        The issue of the use of SFB is an issue that has been going
on 
some
time with the PFA. The Club has raised it, I=92ve raised it (and have
been
lobbied continually =96 and politely - by Sean O=92Reilly about it),
and 
finally
the strength of feeling has become known.
4)        Engineering was in one hell of a mess operationally from
about 2
years ago until recently. It is still dragging itself out of there and
significant pressure and appropriate support is being given to the
management to get it out of that mess as soon as possible. I=92m
working 
my
bollocks off to resolve the problems and provide the sort of service
that 
I
think the PFA members deserve. Let me also make it quite clear that I
have
made it absolutely clear to Engineering that I expect no favours for
being
on the EC, and am therefore subject to just the same frustrations as
everyone else. I would not normally post this information publicly,
but in
view of the attack on me by one contributor to this list yesterday, I 
think
it=92s important to do so now.
5)        The PFA is not yet perfect, but it is all we=92ve got in the
UK. 
There
is a huge amount going on at European level and UK government level
that
needs resolving NOW. The only viable way of ensuring that our voice is

heard
during this process is to ensure that the PFA is in a position to
campaign
effectively on our behalf. Again, I=92m taking a leading part in that
with 
the
forming of the Campaigning Aviators Network to coordinate volunteers
in
lobbying the various bodies. It is noted that the individual mentioned

above
has not volunteered to join CAN.
6)        I have got much better things to do. I get married four
weeks
tomorrow. I=92m moving house. I=92ve a plane to build. I=92ve a
full-time 
job. The
sort of attacks I=92ve seen on this list leave me wondering if I=92m
just
wasting my time. I used to enjoy playing with steam engines, but that
has
ended up somewhat on a back-burner (no pun intended), largely due to
commitments like the PFA and the Club. I=92m seriously considering
getting 
my
shovel out and polishing it ready for action again=85
7)        Finally, and probably the most important point for
individuals
wanting to get =91jobs=92 through Engineering =96 there is a system:
so 
use it!
There is no such thing as a =91variant option=92 with a mod. The
process 
is to
apply for a mod, on the correct forms, and in the correct manner. I
for 
one
do not believe it is arrogant for Engineering to ask a member to
follow 
the
process. It isn=92t hard for heaven=92s sake! On this subject, I and a

number of
other EC members have been putting in a lot of work exploring, among
other
items, how we can reduce the cost to members. One answer that came out
clearly was to change the system so that those who do a decent job of 
their
mods get them through sooner and more cheaply. That we are now working
towards.

If, after reading this, anyone still thinks I=92m a tosser, please 
advise
me
directly! I=92ll be listening, and will expect a strong justification.

Regards,
Jeremy

Jeremy Davey
Europa Monowheel 537M G-EZZA
Europa Club Vice-Chairman, Webmaster, PFA NC Representative PFA EC 
Member =93If you can keep your head when all about you are losing 
theirs, then it is
possible you haven't grasped the severity of the situation.=94
Tail done
Standard XS wings with mods underway
CM installed in fuse (with airbrakes fittings)
1400 build hours to date
Intended fit:
Rotax 914 turbo, Airmaster CS fully-feathering prop
Lots of lights, buttons, switches, gizmos, and alarms





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