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Re: Europa-List: Are Vne and Va IAS or TAS?

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Are Vne and Va IAS or TAS?
From: Tim Ward <ward.t@xtra.co.nz>
Date: Fri, 5 Jan 2018 11:01:09
I am sure Peter Clark would have done those manoeuvres in the flight testing
.  Must look at his notes again.
Tim 

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> On 5/01/2018, at 10:43 AM, Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
> 
> Great article Will, thx!
> 
> I wonder now how the europa was tested wrt Vne and if Vd was tested/is spe
cified, if there is a IAS/density altitude table, and if the the published V
ne is structural or flutter?
> 
> Is Ivan lurking? ;-)
> 
> Cheers,
> Pete
> 
>> On Jan 3, 2018, at 7:23 AM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com>
 wrote:
>> 
>> Pete
>> 
>> I found this http://www.australianflying.com.au/news/vne-and-flutter-expl
ained
>> 
>> What do you think think?
>> 
>> Will
>> 
>> William Daniell
>> LONGPORT
>> +57 310 295 0744
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2018 22:19, "William Daniell" <wdaniell.longport@gmail.com> wro
te:
>> Mmmm....why the difference?  The way I read the article it says that TAS i
s the critical value.   For most pilot this discussion is irrelevant because
 the real issue occurs at altitude.  However since we all fly here regularly
 at over 12k often in mountain turbulence this is very relevant.
>> 
>> Anyway luckily my dynon shows IAS TAS and GS and for now I'll stick with T
AS as the key value.
>> 
>> William Daniell
>> LONGPORT
>> +57 310 295 0744
>> 
>> On Jan 1, 2018 21:43, "Pete" <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
>> Oops.... I mis-stated.  VNE=TAS. Va=IAS
>> 
>>> On Jan 1, 2018, at 9:29 PM, Pete <peterz@zutrasoft.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> TAS from my research.
>>> https://www.vansaircraft.com/pdf/hp_limts.pdf
>>> 
>>> Cheers,
>>> Pete
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Jan 1, 2018, at 9:15 PM, William Daniell <wdaniell.longport@gmail.co
m> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> I seem to recall a discussion on this but I can't find it on the list.
>>>> 
>>>> At 12000 ft DA at which I was flying today, the difference is between I
AS and TAS is 20 kts or roughly 20%.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks in advance Will
>> 
>> 


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