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Subject: RE: Europa-List: UK Insurance costs
From: Paul Mansfield <europaul383@hotmail.com>
Date: Thu, 14 Apr 2016 23:19:12
Great work David, thanks!


I transferred the data into a spreadsheet so I could compare any quotes 
I get; attached here in case others may find this useful...


See the second tab, labelled =98Comparison=99, where you can 
add your own new quotes and see how they compare. Needs Excel or another 
spreadsheet program (sic) to view/edit.


HTH,


Paul M


XS Mono 912S


From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of 
davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk
Sent: 13 April 2016 18:02
Subject: Europa-List: UK Insurance costs


Very many thanks to the many folk who answered my request for insurance 
data. I attach two graphs, the first showing a comparison between Mon & 
Trike for those insured with Traffords, who insure something over 3/4 of 
the respondents, and the second showing other firm's position in 
relation to the same Traffords average line which appears in the first 
graph. A number of interesting points emerge:

 1.  It is apparent that there is no clear difference between mono and 
trike insurance rates in the UK, as far as Traffords are concerned. This 
point is confirmed by a conversation that one of the committee had with 
Visicover, who said that the accident rates are no different and that 
they do not alter rates for each type. This should go some way to negate 
the view that the Mono is an accident waiting to happen, although as 
with so many things there is an element of self selection here and the 
experience and piloting skills of the two groups may not be the same!

2. In the second graph there is a clear suggestion that Visicover offer 
appreciably lower rates than Traffords, (by  150 pounds or so) and this 
is confirmed by a couple of respondents who had had quotes from both, 
with Visicover being correspondingly cheaper. There is one anomalous  
Visicover cost of 1180 pounds for 30k cover, but I guess there was 
something about that proposal that left Visicover deciding they would 
rather not have it on their books! Six premiums from Haywards feature as 
well as one from Jennings and one from Sydney Charles. These numbers are 
too small to make any very firm conclusions, but there is certainly a 
bit of a suggestion that Haywards may be a bit more expensive than 
Traffords.

3. The scatter in the rates of course relates to such things a 
experience, instructor status etc, but those who find their premiums 
well away from the mean line may want to seek alternative quotes.

4. Finally four respondents insured their planes third party & legal 
requirements only and paid premiums in the 300-400 pound range. There is 
certainly an argument that if you can afford to contemplate the cost of 
a write off then there is no point in comprehensive insurance, as 
insurance companies are of course making a profit out of our premiums!

Happy landings, David Joyce, GXSDJ



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