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Re: Europa-List: Spin characteristics

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Spin characteristics
From: Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info>
Date: Tue, 12 Apr 2016 09:20:00
Graeme

Way back when there was a Europa video which included a cockpit sequence 
of of Pete Clark spinning a Europa.  I forget the number of turns he got 
to but is was considerable.

Anyone know if that video is still about in a usable format?

Pete
G-RMAC #109

On 12/04/16 09:02, Ian Cook wrote:
>
> Graeme,
>
> Having done 80 odd spins with the Europa MG the main thing is that the 
> machine goes very near the vertical and picks up speed quickly on 
> recovery, do not overdo the stick forward or you will go inverted with 
> all the problems that brings. Definitely do not have any loose article 
> in the cockpit! I believe the standard Europa XS has similar behaviour 
> e.g. the same powerful tailplane clean aerodynamics etc.
>
> Regards
>
> Ian Cook
>
> *From:*owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com 
> [mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] *On Behalf Of *GRAHAM 
> SINGLETON
> *Sent:* 11 April 2016 20:58
> *To:* europa-list@matronics.com
> *Subject:* Re: Europa-List: Spin characteristics
>
> I have spun several early Classic Europas, during test flying for 
> Permit to Fly. The Classic can bite, clean the spin may be relatively 
> benign but several had a vicious wing drop flaps down.Imho it may be 
> due to inaccuracy of the leading edge of the wing which is critical on 
> Don's excellent airfoil.
>
> We were not given accurate coordinates for the section with the plans 
> but later on they did become available. Sanding the wings to + or - .010"
>
> over the first 12" of chord does give a much more benign stall.
>
> Fitting the now mandatory stall strips also tames the stall.
>
> Graham
>
> On Monday, 11 April 2016, 20:06, graeme bird <graeme@gdbmk.co.uk 
> <mailto:graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>> wrote:
>
> <mailto:graeme@gdbmk.co.uk>>
>
> I've decided to get some aerobatic training just for fun and so have 
> been reading the Kershner basic aerobatic manual. The section on 
> spinning talks about the characteristics of some planes to go flat and 
> recovery being dependent on various hard to predict factors; 
> altitude/pressure as well as plane design. Does anyone spin the mono 
> outside of UK and have any comment. While searching for info, I have 
> seen one or two accounts on here of accidental incipient spin. They 
> have made we think I should make sure my payload (e.g for permit 
> flight test) is better secured than dumped on the seat if a wing drop 
> could send me inverted.
> I was busy fitting my Smart Ass 3 at the strip the other day when my 
> hangar neighbour remarked that he dropped a wing and rolled out of the 
> circuit on base leg in a Brezzer after a 6 hour flight to an 
> unfamiliar strip - lucky to survive I should think. Easy to do though 
> especially if you are turning across a stiff breeze.
>
> --------
> Graeme Bird
> G-UMPY
> Mono Classic/XS FFW 912S/Woodcomp 3000/3W
> Newby: 200 hours 4 years on the Mono
> g@gdbmk.co.uk
>
>
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