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Re: Europa-List: Re: Wing missing mass balance reassess

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Re: Wing missing mass balance reassess
From: Pete Lawless <pete@lawless.info>
Date: Mon, 15 Sep 2014 16:39:45

Hi Tony

Have a look in the wing root where the aileron push rod goes in. You 
will be able to see the blue foam in there.

Just need to be careful of the stall characteristics if the wing is 
foam, as the original leading edge profile can get screwed up by the 
filling and sanding.  Can all be sorted out easily by fitting short 
stall strips to the root end of the leading edge.

Regards

Pete

PS Kit one was fin, rudder, stabiliser.  Flaps and ailerons came with 
the wings.

G-RMAC #109 very definitely not XS with foam wing!

On 15/09/14 16:17, Nigel Graham wrote:
> <nigel_graham@m-tecque.co.uk>
>
> Tony,
>
> The original "classic" kits were sold in three phases, Kit one was 
> tail planes with rudder, fin, flaps and ailerons. Kit two was the blue 
> foam wings and kit three was the fuselage.
>
> There are many Europas out there that started life with "Classic" blue 
> foam wings, but by the time their builders were ready for the fuselage 
> kit, the "New" XS was available, so many of them ended up as hybrids.
> The good thing is that there is absolutely nothing "second rate" about 
> the earlier wings. They are slightly shorter than the XS and have 
> shorter but deeper ailerons and are reputed to weigh less (I haven't 
> weighed mine to check), but fly just as well.
> The XS fuselage had a 2" deeper left hand footwell to address 
> complaints from early flyers that the legroom was a bit lacking (why 
> Europa didn't extend both footwells I have no idea), so a quick check 
> to see it you have an XS fuselage is to see if these are the same 
> depth or not.
> Other XS differences include an integrated fin (no longer a need to 
> make the blue foam fin and stick it on), pre-moulded fuel drain 
> cut-outs under the fuel tank and slightly different foam reinforcement 
> around the rear of the cockpit module by the rear "D" bulkhead.
>
> If you do have this combination of foam wings with XS fus, you can 
> feel happy that it is XS'ish. If however, the fus is the earlier 
> "Classic" then you may be justified contacting the seller for a 
> "robust" discussion.
>
> Either way, you have it now and I doubt you are going to ship it back 
> to the States. Just get to grips with the build and have some fun, 
> you'll end up with a fantastic little plane.
> I have copies of all of the original Blue Foam build manuals in pdf 
> format. If you would like a copy, email me off list and I'll send them 
> on.
>
> Nigel
>
>
> On 15/09/2014 14:59, tonyvaccarella wrote:
>> <tony@weimagine.com.au>
>>
>> Hello again,
>>
>> Well I think I have finally worked out what's happened. I only took 
>> possession of this aircraft 2 weeks ago and been busy reviewing what 
>> I have and what is missing.
>>
>> The aircraft was sold to me as an XS and came from the USA s/n A011 
>> but on closer inspection of the wings seemed to show that they are 
>> foam core. So I think I was sold a Europa Classic. It is for this 
>> reason that the mass-balance reassesses are missing at that they are 
>> not cut out. In reviewing the Builders Manual for the Classic Wing, 
>> the mass balance boxes are not provided and need to be build. Also 
>> the reassess  is constructed AFTER the wing is closed.
>>
>> I feel releaved in one way but annoyed in another that I was sold a 
>> Classic when I was assured it was an XS.
>>
>> Has anyone heard of this happening before - should I be concerned 
>> with the Classic as compared to the XS?
>>
>> Thanks once again..
>>
>> Tony
>>
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>> Tony Vaccarella
>> Mascot NSW 2020
>> Sydney Australia
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>> Read this topic online here:
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>> http://forums.matronics.com/viewtopic.php?p=430565#430565
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