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Re: Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel Control Cable

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel Control Cable
From: David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Date: Sun, 2 Mar 2014 17:48:08

One tip for those installing rudder cables in a mono is to 
run them inside the light plastic tubing (used extensively 
in gliders) through the wheel well. It is virtually 
friction free and protects them entirely from damp & grit.
Regards, David Joyce, GXSDJ


  Mike Baker <galahav@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Mil-DTL-83420 is the general spec that describes the 
>requirements flight control cables
> Composition A - Carbon steel, zinc, or tin over zinc 
>coated
> steel cable is stronger and stiffer than corrosion 
>resistant steel
> 
> MIL-DTL-83420/1 - Wire Rope, Flexible, Type I, 
>Composition A.
> M83420/1-005 Indicates - Wire Rope, Flexible, Type I, 
>Carbon Steel,
> Construction; 7 x 19, Nominal Diameter 5/32
> 
> Composition B - Corrosion resistant steel
> MIL-DTL-83420/2 - Wire Rope, Flexible, Type I, 
>Composition B.
> MIL-DTL-781 - Terminal, Wire Rope Swaging, General 
>Specification for.
> 
> use this info to find the spec of cable you have
> the nicopress is usable on either. best to ck spec on 
>swaging 
> 
> the best place I know of for flight control cables is 
>Mcfarlane aviation (USA) 
> also a good source for other "stuff"
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
> To: "europa-list@matronics.com" 
><europa-list@matronics.com> 
> Sent: Sunday, March 2, 2014 4:14 AM
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel 
>Control Cable
>  
> 
> 
> Yes, stainless was developed for yachts, sea water 
>contamination resistant. There isn't much bending in the 
>Europa so no worries about fatigue.
> Must be the multi strand stuff though, 7X19 springs to 
>mind but anyway it's fine wire strands for flexibility.
> Graham
> 
> Also be sure you use the right crimps, plated I think, 
>not plain copper. Get a second opinion, I not as young as 
>I once was!
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> ________________________________
> From: Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
> To: GRAHAM SINGLETON <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>; 
>europa-list@matronics.com 
> Sent: Sunday, 2 March 2014, 6:04
> Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel 
>Control Cable
>  
> 
> 
> Hi Graham,
> Wish I knew if it was what was supplied by Europa. Ive 
>had the kit too long to know, things have been moved 
>around, and I dont recall the Europa stuff ever being 
>labelled.
> Maybe someone else might be able to clarify. Worst part 
>is, it looks old even though it mightnt be. It reminds 
>me of a Hills Hoist outside clothes line cable, but I 
>think that is more of an Aussie thing. I actually dont 
>have enough Nicopress sleeves now so Ill need more of 
>those anyway, so I can get some more pretty stuff ;-)
> You normally use Stainless Steel cable by choice dont 
>you??
> TR
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On 2 Mar 2014, at 10:18 am, GRAHAM SINGLETON 
><grahamsingleton@btinternet.com> wrote:
> 
> Tony
>>I'd say go ahead with the galvanised steel cable. It 
>>should be fine in Oz, so long as you don't go
>>ocean sailing with it!
>>Graham
>>
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>>________________________________
>>From:Tony Renshaw <tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
>>To:europa-list@matronics.com
>>Sent:Saturday, 1 March 2014, 22:49
>>Subject:Europa-List: Europa or Stainless Steel Control 
>>Cable
>>
>>
>><tonyrenshaw268@gmail.com>
>>
>>Gidday,
>>I have gone through my fair share of cable, and 
>>consequently I have bits everywhere. I have a roll of 
>>cable which appears to be galvanised, or really dull 
>>Stainless Steel, which I believe doesnt happen. Why have 
>>nice shiny Stainless, if it stains. So, the best advice I 
>>have to figure out what is what is to use a magnet. The 
>>unknown roll of dull cable I have is extremely attractive 
>>to the magnet, and the Stainless is only slightly, but 
>>still is drawn towards the magnet on a really long 
>>suspended run, like the length in
> the aft fuselage, towards the magnet when it is mm away, 
>but it still attracts it. So, this other roll I can only 
>imagine might have been that supplied by Europa, and I 
>wouldnt know because this roll has no product code or 
>numbers on it.
>>My question, whilst Id prefer to use Stainless just 
>>because it doesnt look like it has been in the aircraft 
>>for a million years, however the gal cable (or whatever 
>>it is) I am told is more durable especially in terms of 
>>bends. This is a conservative approach from gliders where 
>>control cabling can have acute bends, but we dont have 
>>that. So, should I resurrect this roll of cable out of my 
>>waste bin and use it, or should I replace it with 
>>Stainless Steel?
>>Thanks for any advice or help, and I appreciate all the 
>>help Ive got with this sofar.
>>Regards
>>TonyRenshawhttp://forums.matronics.com
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