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Hi Tim,
Hope you are well.
Repairing a damaged wing is relatively easy ' getting the correct profile
is
however not as straightforward as it looks.
If Europa still manufactured the foam cores then it would be possible to
replace the damaged section but without it a profile to work with it=92s
guesswork.
You won=92t know whether the profile is correct till you fly the aircraft '
that=92s my feeling anyway.
I guess that if one wanted to use the wings with another new fuselage there
could be a cash and time saving.
I would be concerned that there is unseen damage and I=92d be surprised if
the PFA would allow this aircraft to be flown again ' I suspect somebody
has
already asked them the question !
IMHO
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of houlihan
Sent: 02 June 2012 17:37
Subject: Re: Europa-List: RE: Europa-List: Europa for repair on AFORS
Hi Carl.
I agree with all you say except why do you pick out a Classic wing as being
very difficult to repair.
In my very humble opinion damage to a foam core structure like the classic
wing should be easier to part replace or repair than say a monocoque
structure like the XS wing.
As I say this comment is only based on my experience building a classic
aircraft so I am not an expert in this area.
Tim Houlihan
On 2 June 2012 09:23, Carl Pattinson <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk> wrote:
The =93aircraft=94 looks like a complete disaster area and the idea that the
fuselage can safely be pieced together is pure fantasy. I can=92t see any
inspector in his right mind signing this off unless the whole area was paint
stripped and checked for further stress damage. The fuselage is a =93write
off=94 ' you would need to purchase a new fuselage, though it might be
possible to save the cockpit module.
One thing not mentioned to date is one of the wings appears to have
significant leading edge damage ' if it=92s a classic Europa will be very
difficult (though not impossible) to repair. The wing profile on the Europa
is critical (performance wise) so if the repair is not perfect it will fly
like a brick (and probably stall/ spin like a kamikazee !)
The engine is a Subaru which I if I am not mistaken was the reason it the
aircraft crashed in the first place ' the early ones were unreliable !
Is it worth =A36,500 in parts ' questionable.
Unless you are looking for a project that will never fly.
From: owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com
[mailto:owner-europa-list-server@matronics.com] On Behalf Of Andrew Sarangan
Sent: 02 June 2012 04:09
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europa for repair on AFORS
When I read "just needs fibreglass repairs" what I was picturing was an
airframe with a few dings, damaged control surfaces, broken canopy and prop.
But the website photo shows the firewall and the tail cone completely
separated from the fuselage. It looks far more serious than "just needs
fibreglass repairs".
On Fri, Jun 1, 2012 at 2:44 PM, Gerry Holland
<gholland@content-stream.co.uk> wrote:
Can I just ask the advice of one of two well known Guru's on this List.
There is a Europa for Sale on AFORS at:
http://www.afors.com/index.php?page=adview
<http://www.afors.com/index.php?page=adview&adid=15525&imid=0>
&adid=15525&imid=0
Part of the write up quotes:
Professionally built just needs fibreglass repairs and a new stick assembly,
lower cowl and elevator push/pull tube in replacement parts.
Am I being naive in thinking that the fuselage will need a complete new
Fuselage, lower and upper and control Module..
I'm looking for a project but this one looks to be listed with an emphasis
that it's very practical exercise and not a big deal. I'm thinking it's a
big task.
Comments please.
Regards
Gerry
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