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Re: Europa-List: Europas in the UK

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Europas in the UK
From: David Joyce <davidjoyce@doctors.org.uk>
Date: Wed, 22 Feb 2012 11:27:21

Sven, You could get a good approximation by going to the 
Europa website and looking at the list of all flying 
Europas Some of Hesse have up to date hours flown, some 
have hours flown last updated several years ago, whilst 
others have never bothered to supply any hours. If you are 
prepared to do the work, you could update the second 
category on a proportional basis, and provide hours for 
the last category on the assumption that they will be a 
similar group to the first two categories.
           Alternatively you could contact Andy Draper at 
the LAA and ask him whether there is the possibility of 
him giving you the precise data, as the LAA require hours 
flown for every annual renewal.
            Regards, David Joyce, G-XSDJ

  "Sidsel & Svein Johnsen" <sidsel.svein@oslo.online.no> 
wrote:
> I am still in discussion with the Norwegian CAA 
>regarding their ban on
> flying at night or in IMC with Norwegian registered 
>Experimental class
> aircraft (just entered the 4th year, their response time 
>is sloooow).  
> 
> 
> 
> The ban is imposed on all  of the aircrafts by 
>conditions in the permits to
> fly, but according to the best legal expertise, it is 
>not legal to impose
> such a ban generally unless it is made part of the 
>formal aviation
> regulations.  If not in the regulations, each individual 
>aircraft must be
> considered on its own merits before placing such 
>restrictions on it.  Our
> CAA says that they have considered each, which is b.s.
> 
> 
> 
> In support of my line of argument (that each aircraft 
>must be considered
> individually), I would very much appreciate information 
>on the following:
> 
> 
> 
> -          Approx. how many Europas are flying in the 
>UK?
> 
> -          How many accumulated flight hours?
> 
> -          How many hours on the aircraft having flown 
>the most?  Which
> engine does it have?
> 
> 
> 
> The reason for asking only about UK statistics is that 
>our CAA is looking
> more to what the UK does than other countries.  By the 
>way, any development
> in the PFA regarding this issue - there was some 
>discussion about this a few
> years ago, wasn't it?
> 
> 
> 
> I have looked through all the reports on the 84 Europa 
>accidents in the UK
> AAIB web site - nothing there to support that a 
>correctly built Europa with
> 912ULS is likely to have an engine problem!
> 
> 
> 
> Regards,
> 
> Svein
> 
> LN-SKJ
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 



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