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Subject: Europa-List: Re: Europa-List: large mag drop =?ISO-8859-1?Q?on_both_mags=2C_912uls?
From: Carl Pattinson <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Fri, 27 Feb 2009 13:04:55
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Hi,

Its a long shot but the plug leads are also screened. Bearing in mind that 4
 plugs are powered by the LHS mag and the remaining 4 by the RHS mag if one
 lead from each magneto set were shorting out the engine would be effectively
 firing on 3 cylinders.

We had a situation where one of our leads was shorting out which caused a mag
 drop on one side. Stripping back the screen at the plug end fixed the
 problem.

What you describe certainly sounds as if one cylinder is not firing on each
 set of mags. When both mags are live the problem would dissappear.

Due to the high voltage in the plug leads a short is much more likely here.

Crank the engine with the plugs unscrewed (but grounded) and it should be
 possible to identify the faulty lead. Just be sure there is no fuel vapour
 around (ie: drain the float chambers and disconnect the fuel).

PS: Rubber gloves are reccommended unless you want a shock !

Hope this helps.

Carl Pattinson
G-LABS


  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Keith Hickling 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com 
  Sent: Friday, February 27, 2009 4:56 AM
  Subject: Europa-List: large mag drop on both mags, 912uls


  Hello all,

  On first running my new 912 uls a couple of weeks ago, I got a mag drop pf
 just over 500 rpm on one mag and just under 600 rpm on the other mag,
 starting at 4000 rpm. All else was OK; oil temp and press, EGTs, CHTs etc,
 and the engine ran quite smoothely;  even on 1 mag with the rpm drop it was
 not obviously rough or misfiring. Prop is Airmaster, operating correctly -
 testing done on fine pitch.

  Our local Rotax man thought it was probably not a real mag drop but a tacho
 problem, though it sounded real. So yesterday we checked it with an optical
 tacho and it was real. The optical tacho showed a rpm drop on the prop from
 1700 down to 1490, which is equivalent to a 500 rpm drop on the engine.

  Another rotax owner here suggested it might be the mag ground leads
 shorting to the screen, as I had left the screen quite close to the end of
 the wire where it enters the ignition modules. So today I stripped the
 screen a bit further back, disconnected the screen ground and connected the
 mag shorting wires to 2 temporary switches, bypassing the ignition switch
 completely. This made no difference, still the same mag drop, eliminating
 partial shorting of the mag wires as a cause.

  The plug gaps are correct, and the plug colour looks OK. The throttle
 cables are set correctly. The engine always starts first go, easily, and
 runs smoothly. Our local engineers have no ideas, although they are not very
 familiar with rotaxes. So I would really appreciate any advice on where to
 go from here - what should I look at next?

  Thanks,

  Keith Hickling,
  New Zealand,
  Mono XS, Kit 613.


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