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Re: Europa-List: The Factory Fuel Sight Gauge/tank leaks

Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Factory Fuel Sight Gauge/tank leaks
From: Duncan & Ami McFadyean <ami@mcfadyean.freeserve.co.uk>
Date: Sun, 9 Sep 2007 11:39:03
<<As for the tank leak woes, I have a used fuel tank in the shop which 
hasn't had fuel in it for 4 years maybe 5 and am going to fill it to 
check for cracks / leaks.>>

Something to consider in the fuel tank debate is that the (pre 
"fluoride-treated") tanks expanded slowly by about 3% when first filled. 
But they also shrink back when left for long periods (months rather than 
days or weeks) without fuel.

If a tank shrinks back, it is likely to shift and be no longer in such 
intimate contact with the supports that were moulded to it, possibly 
resulting in pressure points, particularly on edges and inflexions 
formed at the sides of support brackets.

It's only a big polythene bay after all!

Duncan McF.
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: ALAN YERLY 
  To: europa-list@matronics.com 
  Sent: Sunday, September 09, 2007 2:58 PM
  Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Factory Fuel Sight Gauge/tank leaks


  Sight gauge woe's.
  In my experience, the reason for the empty reading in flight is that 
the sight gauge is typically hooked to the feed line.  Picture those 
large coffee pots with the sight gauge on the tap.  As soon as you open 
the tap, the sight gauge drops.  You are getting the same effect.  The 
fix is to install the Mod 33 and use the drain line as your lower sight 
gauge hookup point.  The static fuel at the rear of the tank allows the 
site gauge to be quite stable in flight.  For those of you who put the 
sight gauge in the seat back like I have, it works fine (tri-gear).  The 
longer tube lengths for those of you with the sight gauge near the foot 
well, acceleration does cause the fuel to move.  Remember to use the 
FSO2 to help stabilize the readings.

  As for venting of the sight gauge, I put my fuel vents on the bottom 
of the aircraft.  From the fuel vent fitting (I use a F09C and hook the 
sight gauge vent line to the molded fitting, although I have clients 
with the standard fitting and the other end of the sight gauge tee'd to 
the main vent line),  I loop the fuel vent line up to the fill neck, put 
a T in the neck (so the gas doen't burp during fueling) and continue up 
over the plastic fuel neck, down the back side to a vent tube on the 
bottom of the aircraft.  I am supplying this info only because it is 
different than the stock fuel vent system, and although the low pressure 
area on the top of the fuselage is a possible fuel suction point, and or 
a ram air point, it shouldn't cause sight gauge accuracy problems, but 
it does. The only reason for putting the vent on the bottom initially, 
was cosmetics and the nasty fuel streaks down the fuselage when making 
low power right turns and getting fuel venting out of the tank in some 
aircraft (especially the gliders).  Hooking the vent side of the sight 
gauge to the vent fitting at the top of the tank was to eliminate the 
possibility of suction/pressure influences from the vent to the small 
area of the sight tube.  The idea was to ensure the top of the tank air 
pressure and the bottom of the tank fitting were as stable as far as 
flow of air and fuel as possible.  It seems to work just fine. 

  As for the tank leak woes, I have a used fuel tank in the shop which 
hasn't had fuel in it for 4 years maybe 5 and am going to fill it to 
check for cracks / leaks.  I'll post the results if I don't blow up.

  Bud Yerly
    ----- Original Message ----- 
    From: steve v 
    To: europa-list@matronics.com 
    Sent: Saturday, September 08, 2007 5:55 PM
    Subject: Re: Europa-List: The Factory Fuel Sight Gauge


    Just Thought i would add my "short" experience with the standard 
    sight gauge here, 
          i have a tri gear with a compleatly standard text book 
    intallation with the tube visable in the port footwell, on the 
    ground the gauge reads fine, airbourne it reads empty - it has done 
this 
    from day one. i intend shortly to dissconnect it and fit a stop end 
to the tank as my fuel flow meter is accurate to within half a litre. 
    could the empty reading in flight be due to acceleration as the tube 
runs forward B4 running verticaly?

    Steve vestuti G-CEBV #573.


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