I couldnt have put it better myself (possibly with the exception of
Nevilles aposite response)
May the force be with you.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Europa List" <n914va@bvunet.net>
Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 2:55 PM
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Fw: *** SPAM *** Mod 74
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> I have found that anything that has the adjectives "motorcycle" or
> "aircraft" attached to it costs more than a similar part from the hardware
> store. From my years in the manufacturing of metal parts, I am aware of
> different standards being applied to parts that look identical, so rather
> than take a chance on failure, I spend more to buy properly spec'ed parts.
> Am I safer? I couldn't tell you. Do I worry less? Yes. Will my
> manufacturer be around when I need a dealer specific part? I'm hoping that
> my patronage means that they will be. Look around. I believe that a
> truthful assessment of Europa 2004 prices on most parts/components to be
> well within reason. Besides, they are a darn nice bunch of guys who are
> willing to answer the most inane questions without laughing. Thanks guys.
>
> Vaughn Teegarden
> N914VA, Gathering steam for the final push
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Carl Pattinson" <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
> To: <europa-list@matronics.com>
> Sent: Sunday, July 29, 2007 7:20 AM
> Subject: Europa-List: Fw: *** SPAM *** Mod 74
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>> <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
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>> Richard,
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>> While I cant fault your reasoning on this matter all I would say is that
>> you are missing the point.
>>
>> Europa aircraft provides a service, not just bundled components sourced
>> from RS or elsewhere. Someone ???? has to pay for that service and this
>> is
>> reflected in the cost of parts/ kits supplied.
>>
>> Better that Europa charge extortionate prices (allegedly) and stay in
>> business than being cheap and going bust.
>>
>> Having owned a company that went bust I learned that lesson the hard
>> way - and believe me it was a very
>> expensive lesson !
>>
>> Carl
>>
>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: "Richard Holder" <rholder@avnet.co.uk>
>>> To: <carl@flyers.freeserve.co.uk>
>>> Sent: Saturday, July 28, 2007 12:00 AM
>>> Subject: *** SPAM *** Mod 74
>>>
>>>
>>>> Carl wrote
>>>>
>>>>> With only 500 or so aircraft out there you have to sell
>>>>> a hell of a lot of spares and kits just to cover the
>>>>> day to day running costs of the business.
>>>>
>>>>> Its easy to work out the cost of the raw materials and
>>>>> argue that the final cost is a rip off but Europa
>>>>> dosent enjoy the economies of scale that larger
>>>>> businesses enjoy. The thousand or so wing pins that
>>>>> have to be manufactured will certainly cost more than a
>>>>> few pence each.
>>>>
>>>> I doubt if it is as many as that - there weren't 500
>>>> classics !
>>>>
>>>> Anyway if the nuts and washers are 1 the set (and that is
>>>> overgenerous) do you think the pins cost 19.50 each ?
>>>> When buying say 600 ? I doubt it - more like 5 each -
>>>> giving Europa a fat profit of 300 x 29 = 8700 (handling
>>>> and postage is charged separately) for something that if
>>>> it had occurred on the watch of the original Europa
>>>> company would have been provided for free as a mandatory
>>>> mod caused by a design fault.
>>>>
>>>>> No one likes having to shell out for mandatory mods but
>>>>> fifty quid for a safer aircraft sounds like a bargain
>>>>> to me.
>>>>
>>>> It is not likely to make the aircraft safer. There are
>>>> hundreds out there whose wing pin mounts have been
>>>> inspected and passed. And they have done tens of thousands
>>>> of hours. William's accident was not caused by the win
>>>> pins. The wing pin separated because of some other causal
>>>> event.
>>>>
>>>> Nor is it 50. Based on Mod 73 the work is going to cost
>>>> another 200 - 300, and more down time.
>>>>
>>>> Richard
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