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Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Engine option

Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Engine option
From: MICHAEL PARKIN <mikenjulie.parkin@btopenworld.com>
Date: Fri, 1 Oct 2004 19:58:57

Hi Jos,

Wasn't meaning to be aggressive , just direct!  They always say that you can 
take the man out of Yorkshire but you cannot take the Yorkshire out of the 
man.
However, I do know that in the past, that several Europa builders and owners 
have been castigated both on and off the list for advertising their 
products/modifications to other builders.  I therefore consider it dual 
standards to encourage a component representative to advertise his wares on 
this europa owner/operator/builders page.  It actually sets a precedent. 
What is to stop all the propeller, engine or avionics people bombarding us 
with 'junk' mail.
On the subject of engine choice for you and the others still deciding, I 
would have thought that you would have been interested in the experience of 
those who have trod the path before.
The fact is that there have been cooling problems on 2 Jabiru 3300 
installations to my knowledge.  Furthermore, propeller resonant frequencies 
have also caused problems.  Of course these problems are solved if one uses 
the 2 bladed wooden sensenich props - of course, at the same time, the 
"whisper quiet" part of the Europa sales pitch goes away too.
Some years ago, whilst going through a similar thought process, I did 
consider seriously going the Jabiru 3300 route.  It is a nice looking piece 
of engineering - and as evidenced by Bob Harrison's G-PTAG, it sounds really 
great on the ground.  The question to ask Bob, is if he could go back a few 
years, would he choose the same route!
At about that time, Ivan Shaw asked me what engine I was planning to 
install.  I explained that I had several options and hadn't really decided. 
His advice was quite straightforward.  He said, "get a rotax, the aeroplane 
was built around it and the combination works great".  I took his advice and 
have never regretted it.
As you say, it is quite true, the rotax fwf kit is expensive - but you get 
what  you pay for in my experience.

Much of this is historic and since then there have been some interesting 
engine developments, particularly from the US.  The problem for UK builders 
is that it is a major task to install an engine that is not sponsored by the 
Company.  I shudder to think how many years one could waste trying to get 
approval for such an installation from the PFA.  Of course in some countries 
you are not shackled in such a way.

kind regards,

Mike

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jos Okhuijsen" <josok-e@ukolo.fi>
Subject: Re: Europa-List: Jabiru 3300 Engine option


>
> Hi Mike,
>
> Why the agressiveness? I am happy you are happy with your Rotax 914.
> For me and many others, we have still to decide which way to go.
> So the development of a Jabiru fwf is interesting, if only from a
> competition point of view. After all, the price of the Rotax fwf's is
> rather high! Let's have a good look at alternatives. What's the situation
> on the diesel front btw?
>
> Jos Okhuijsen #600
>
>
> 




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