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Subject: RE: Europa-List: 914 fuel pressure
From: STOUT GARRY V CSFF2 <garrys@att.com>
Date: Wed, 7 May 2003 07:21:18

Dave, respectfully I think you may be agonizing over nothing.  There are
multiple thousands of 914's running all over the world.  Most use the
same fuel pump and pressure regulator that you have.  They all work just
fine.  Why tinker with something that isn't broke?  Stop worrying and
start flying!

Regards,

Garry V. Stout
N4220S  914-trigear

-----Original Message-----
From: DJA727@aol.com [mailto:DJA727@aol.com]

Here is a question that comes after thinking quite a bit.

The 914 engine has two electric fuel pumps that feed fuel to the engine.
The 
fuel pressure is supposed to be regulated by a fuel regulator on the top
of 
the airbox. It maintains the fuel pressure at about 3.5 psi above the
airbox 
pressure. The normal range is from 2.0 to 5.0 psi delta above airbox 
pressure. Should the pressure go over 5.0 delta, there is risk of
flooding 
the carbs.

I have been trying to figure a way to measure that parameter and have
not 
found a cheap way, since a delta pressure sensor to do that job is very 
expensive, I think. 

I had an idea that I acted on and that was to record fuel pressure vs 
manifold pressure, to see if the relationship would be similar to the
airbox 
relationship. It turned out to be linear and I set up my monitor to
compare 
the fuel pressure reading to manifold pressure with a derived simple
math 
function. I ran the engine today, and it basically worked OK, staying
within 
my prescribed limits based on reason.

It worked fine, except for the fact that the fuel pressure reading
jumped 2.2 
psi with the second fuel pump turned on. This has always bothered me
that the 
fuel pressure is supposed to be regulated, yet it significantly
increases 
with the second fuel pump activated along with the first. I am measuring
raw 
fuel pressure in the line coming from the pumps, going to the engine.

The Rotax manual has the two pumps in series, yet the Europa manual
calls for 
them to be in parallel. Mine are as the Europa manual calls. I am now 
wondering if the airplane should be operated with one pump running,
rather 
than 2. I have a system set up to automatically activate the second
pump, 
should the first one fail.

An additional factoid is that my engine spits small amounts of soot onto
the 
leading edge of the wing and I am wondering if I am getting that from
running 
the engine on the virge of flooding with 2 pumps turned on for aake off
and 
landing. I would love to talk to a Rotax engineer, but I find them hard
to 
come by. Anybody have any ideas on this? Should the fuel pressure be
measured 
in the line from the regulator to the carb? If I institute the policy of

taking off with one pump, that would solve this puzzle, but I am not
sure 
what is correct.

Thanks,
Dave
A227
Mini u2




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