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201. Re: Europa-List: RE: EUROPA PIP-PIN RECESS (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Wed, 20 Jun 2007 22:43:15
Carl I moght be wrong but I would not have grounded you. The smaller the circumference the stronger the hole surround? Graham -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00359.html (11,619 bytes)

202. Re: Europa-List: RE: EUROPA PIP-PIN RECESS (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:08:34
Jeremy thanks for that, the thing that bothers me, epoxy will not bond reliably to stainless steel. That's why the bushes are prone to coming loose. The only way we can get any secure bonding is by m
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00364.html (9,847 bytes)

203. Re: Europa-List: Re: 180 turns (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2007 01:12:25
William I wouldn't call it ignorance! There is no such thing as a silly question. (unless you already know the answer) First set up the stall strips to the factory spec which I think is in the Owners
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00365.html (7,956 bytes)

204. Re: Europa-List: Extension of outboard Tailplane pip pin holes? (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:15:54
Bob the slots are in the torque tube only, not the TP6. Its the TP6 that holds the pip pin in Graham * -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00420.html (9,232 bytes)

205. Re: Europa-List: RE: EUROPA PIP-PIN RECESS (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:48:14
Karel You are right about treating symptoms. I too am still very puzzled about the cause of William's accident. There are certainly a lot of Europas around with 1/2" of looseness in the tailplanes. T
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00423.html (9,906 bytes)

206. Re: Europa-List: Extension of outboard Tailplane pip pin holes? (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Fri, 22 Jun 2007 23:53:48
Bob the slotting was circumferential wasn't it? Anyway, you are right, it was factory recommendation Graham
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00426.html (9,125 bytes)

207. Re: Europa-List: Wikipedia's entry on flutter (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 10:39:34
Good point Jos, however, all UK Europas are not grounded, they have just given us some fairly tight criteria to consider. one tailplane pin was bent 90 degrees?! How steep is the dive to reach Vne wi
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00457.html (10,074 bytes)

208. Re: Europa-List: Tailplane flutter (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 13:12:46
Duncan I think they always were supplied as an interference fit. I've noticed, however, that once they have been in and out more than once they loosen up. Pushing a drill through to drill the nylon b
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00466.html (9,732 bytes)

209. Re: Europa-List: VNE Test Question (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 23:40:22
Martin PFA really only issued a " we already told you this, now you know why it's probably important" Graham
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00490.html (7,296 bytes)

210. Re: Europa-List: Tailplane Torque Tube (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 23:46:00
Fred I've only done it once, but it took me an hour and a half to get the torque tube out of an XS recently, ( year or so ago) I didn't crawl in the back. It took two of us about 4 hours to get it al
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00491.html (7,531 bytes)

211. Re: Europa-List: Wikipedia's entry on flutter (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 23:48:24
Jos was that William Mills' email? Highly relevant to the investigation. Graham
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00492.html (9,977 bytes)

212. Re: Europa-List: Tailplane flutter (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 23:53:54
Duncan I think you are right. The surface finish on the pins might be unsuitable, maybe the grinding marks are rubbed off when fitting? Graham
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00493.html (9,559 bytes)

213. Re: Europa-List: Re: Tailplane Torque Tube (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2007 23:57:48
Jim my understanding is that enlarging the pin holes more than about 3/8" will start to weaken the TP9, have you increased the size much from 3/8? Graham hoping for a ride one day when you have the l
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00494.html (8,507 bytes)

214. Re: Europa-List: Wikipedia's entry on flutter (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:02:19
Pip pin I think, can you confirm Jeremy? No one has yet worked out how that happened. Graham -- Graham Singleton Tel: +441629820187 Mob: +447739582005
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00495.html (8,970 bytes)

215. Re: Europa-List: Tailplane flutter (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 00:25:03
Carl The torque tube is chrome plated 4130 I believe, stainless isn't strong enough. You may have spotted the weakest link in the chain, if the TP9 & 12 had more bearing area the slop problem might g
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00496.html (9,956 bytes)

216. Re: Europa-List: Tailplane flutter (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 12:08:59
Nigel Hi! sorry to hear about your motor bike incident, get better soon. Your mod is probably the neatest one and good engineering practice. I will be surprised if PFA don't like it, not invented her
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00511.html (9,534 bytes)

217. Re: Europa-List: Tailplane flutter (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:45:16
Remi the clamp solution was Nigel Graham's not mine, but I do like it. I'm pleased your solution works too, my reservations about taper pins are about the risk of distorting the cross tube and causin
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00539.html (11,703 bytes)

218. Re: Europa-List: Tailplane flutter (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2007 23:51:42
Don't think so Willie but I could be mistaken, only downside I can think of is a slight weight penalty. Graham
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00540.html (8,894 bytes)

219. Re: Europa-List: Hole Enlongation vs. Landing Gear Type (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:00:46
John you are probably right, or lucky, or both. Graham
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00541.html (8,029 bytes)

220. Re: Europa-List: tailplane balance (score: 1)
Author: Graham Singleton <grahamsingleton@btinternet.com>
Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2007 00:16:21
That's for aerodynamic reasons, in the early days the pivot was moved about a bit to avoid "short period oscillation" and the present position was perhaps the best compromise. The pivot needs to be i
/europa_forum//html/europa-list/2007-06/msg00542.html (8,085 bytes)


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